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Alec Burks Trade Rumor, Jazz/Wizard
Posted by: David J. Smith on November 18th, 2012
The author's views are entirely his or her own and may not reflect the views of the Utah Jazz.Last night, NBA columnist and analyst Sam Amico tweeted out the following:
“Word around NBA is Jazz G Alec Burks is available. Burks, the 12th overall draft pick in 2011, has played in just 5 of Jazz’s 10 games.”
I cannot comment too much on Amico’s reputation or track record, but I personally think it is just a passing rumor. It would not make sense for the Jazz to give up on a talented guy like this so early in his career, especially after Burks had a decent, sometimes very impressive, rookie campaign. They did cut strings quickly, however, with other first-round draft picks Sasha Pavlovic, Morris Almond, Curtis Borchardt, Raul Lopez, Kirk Snyder, Kris Humphries, and Eric Murdock–none of whom had as much talent as Burks has already shown.
Regardless, count me as a Burks fan. We’ve seen glimpses of what he can do: slash, get to the free throw, make some stellar passes, shoot a bit too early, rebound well for a guard, operate outside the offense, and handle the ball. I think he oozes with potential and am hopeful he gets the chance to display his game soon–here in Utah. He does indeed need to perform better than he has in the time he’s had this season. I agree with David Locke: he will get his chance to excel here, this season.
Here is my Deseret News instant analysis for the Jazz win over the Wizards. It definitely was an ugly game, but with the way things have gone on the road thus far, we’ll take a win regardless how it is packaged.
My article talks a bit about the rotational changes. I personally like Gordon Hayward in the starting line-up, but his stats last year and last night show that he can really excel as the focal point of the offense. He often defers to Jefferson and Millsap, and now Mo Williams, in the starting line-up, but off the bench, he is the guy. I’ve been among Hayward’ s biggest supporters and think he has the tools to be great–either off the bench or as a starter…as long as he finishes games.
Other quick hits:
- Congratulations to former Jazzman Josh Howard on signing with Minnesota. This is good because (a) he is going to a good situation–a team on the rise that has experienced a ton of injuries. He will get playing time immediately, and (b) it precludes him from joining the Jazz this season. Howard a good citizen for us and in a way, jump started a declining career, but he just did not fit our offensive style, in my opinion.
- The Wizards have to be one of the most unfulfilling teams to watch. I’m interested to see them play with their full line-up of Wall, Nene, Okafor, Ariza, Beal, etc., but I just don’t see them doing much anytime soon.
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the most stupid thing i’m seeing from the start of the season in Alec Burks sitting while we’re struggling on shooting.
not even a road trip is enough to see him playing??
coach Corbin is doing wrong, play the guys or trade him with a big for a good piece
I think most of these roumors come from a writers boss who says get of your can a write a article. So they look at the box score and find a dnp at the bottom.
The players you mentioned above never did make good except for Hump and that was three seasons later. I think Corbin is still looking at lineups. The starters last night could work at the end of the game but not the start.Favors got his thirty minutes last night (close to it) but he will improve every game.Why not try AL and Kanter on the second unit?? I hope Burks gets his chance. He is a keeper..
Well its a good thing Boston didnt get rid of rondo after his rookie season. like he was one of my top ten favorite players in the league during his rookie season, burks is already one of my top ten favorite players in the league. The kid has swag and obviously Utah isnt ready for that which is quite stupid. Just hurry up and trade him so he can be the one that got away.. “Dominique”. Utah fans can be prepared for nightmarish years to come watching burks thrive with a better team and a better coach. Thought Lindsey was suppose to come in and fix ship but not a damm thing. I saw this crap coming form those offseason moves bringing in the williams and foye. The jazz are using and abusing the “junkyard dog”, kanter and burks. Corbin and others werent complaining after stellar performances from the young guns who without a doubt landed us in the playoffs.
There isnt much separating burks and hayward i might add. just that hayward is starting. No knock on hayward but i seesee burks as the more star material. Hayward can be a better healthy mike miller if utilize correctly. Some people might want to knock burks but he will end up D-wade 2.0 (its written all over him).
Its just not fun watching Jazz basketball anymore and my patience is running out and with this mess of a team at all positions its plain ridiculous. So trade burks so i can atleast root for a second team in the league. Shhhyyatt!!!
Oh and i beg every game for atleast one pick and pop play for kanter and i havent seen one. i would probably lose a bet saying he will see one. Im sure he’s making them in practice..
@Omar BIG UPS…atleast we’ll see burks play else where since this garbage A coach and management has no balls.
The best thing about the Josh Howard signing is that we will get to abuse him for 4 games. Seriously, post up Marvin Williams on him every play, then let DeMarre come in and hustle his butt into the ground as revenge for kicking him from the starting lineup late last season for no good reason.
Howard was not a good Jazzman.
BIG UPS to you @pintz11!!! You and I are at the front of this bandwagon!!! All the Burks haters can keep on hating, whether with the Jazz or elsewhere, Burks is gonna be a superstar, and all these jokers are gonna be saying “well he didn’t show us this while he was in Utah so how could Corbin or KOC have known how good he was”—no sh** we didn’t see him cuz he gets DNPs!!!! Corbin is a blockhead.
I am not gonna blame Lindsey yet, cuz I bet the ghost of KOC is still haunting that office, so KOC is still the true shot caller. And he handed Lindsey the team KOC wanted–didn’t trade Al. So that way when “Lindsey” trades Burks per the order of KOC, all Jazznation will blame Lindsey (and not KOC) for making the the WORST STUPIDEST move in Jazz history. Lindsey probably could have gotten rid of Bell in a day, but I bet KOC played his Jedi Mind-trick non-sense “we need to look at all the possibilities, your not gonna like who we would have traded away, we are having conversations, we are gonna make the best trade for our team–not just to make a trade, and etc. blah blah”
So in a year when the Jazz re-sign Millsap and Al and Foye and Mo, and Burks is putting up 20 points, 5 rebounds, 5 assists, 1 steal a game, getting mad endorsements becoming the face of another franchise not the Jazz, we will be at best the 8th seed 4 game sweep team and more often the 12 or 13 lottery pick. Great move Jazz FO. In fact when I was reading the trade rumors, some Lakers commentator (I guess hearing the same rumors) was saying Lakers should go after Burks and the comments seemed to love that idea….saying Burks in De’antoni system would be killer. Jazz will probably trade Burks for Blake so we could have 5 PGs so Corbin can choose to play:
C, Foye
PF, Mo
SF, Blake
SG, Tinsley
PG, Watson
Imagine playing against Howard, Gasol, Kobe, Burks, and Nash…..that our nightmare. Everyone wants Burks but the Jazz….how stupid is that!!! We have him under-contract! Tinsley is junk, yet is averaging 17 minutes; Foye is one-dimensional, and yes a STEAK shooter and is averaging 25 minutes per game, Burks our most athletic guard, and he is averaging DNPs, what a joke. When Burks gets 20+ minutes Jazz are 12-2. Jazz win about 87% of there games when Burks plays 20+ minutes. If Lindsey is a data guy, he wouldn’t think about trading Burks, but KOC has always been in love with mediocre (most times overrated) talent that most teams do not want…like say oh, CJ Miles, Howard, Bell, Al, in recent history.
Go look at the tape when Jazz played Lakers @Lakers. Al had a DNP, Favors got some cheap fouls called on him, and who was it down the stretch…Kanter and Burks that won that game—IN THEIR ROOKIE YEARS with little or no playing time!!! Both got 17 points a piece, Kanter abused Bynum (who just by being in the same building as Al, causes Al to play bad like the 76er game the other day) and Burks couldn’t be stopped by Kobe. Had 17 points and ZERO turnovers….but ya I am sure Foye has more upside than Burks. The championship backcourt for the Jazz is Burks and Hayward both playing alternating playing the PG, Favor and Kanter as our frontline. Jazz FO should be ashamed of themselves.
FREE Alec Burks, FREE the C4, Trade Al, DNP Watson and Tinsley, limit Foye’s minutes unless on fire (per game). Until then I think TWolves and Houston and Portland/Lillard is looking better than most thought, and Mavs when Dirk returns, will be leap forged. If Burks goes to the Lakers, he will average about 14 FT attempts per game, become a mega-star, and Jazz for the next 7-10 years will never make it out of the 2nd round of the playoffs.
@pintz11 ditto.
Wow if Burks gets traded I’m done. My patience is also running low. The Jazz get good players for once and they want to trade him away before the dude can actually prove himself? I hope this isn’t true. If any one should be available it should be AL JEFFERSON dammit!
And stop playing Tinsley’s old a$$ over Burks!!!!!! If I sound mad it’s because i am.
One thing you all are forgetting is this is just a romuor and will probably be just that a rumour . So lets not get so over excited about it .
Also I have seen players come and go that excel in other programs when they leave . The ones that come to the Jazz have played well on other teams but cannot seam to put it togeter with the Jazz .
I think it is funny how you all are ravin about how good these players are until they come and play for us then you are rantin and ravin how terible they are playin now .
I am just as confused as anyone about Burks not playin but I have to believe that he will get his shot soon .
That is mt 10 cents worth .
Yes its a rumour but im sure there are others like myself who would rather have seen the jazz run with what they had last year this season and if nothing had worked out then use free agency. The junkyard dog can play, he’s no scrub. Evans has his purpose with little sparks and hustle defensively and when in can just hurt peoples feelings with dunks lmao. For all that fans are witnessing right now, its not looking any different than last year. Lets see why u drafted and traded for favors. I would not mind going through the pains with burks hayward favors and kanter in the starting line( just have veteran insurance around them). trial by fire. Mark Jackson doesnt shy away from his rookies if they are proving themselves even though G-state is another story. When Earl comes back burks will be in the d league smdh or unfortunately traded.
There was one thing i noticed from last season. The young core seems comfortable together on the court and at times it was like “us vs the vets” and they shined plenty times together.
I love Burks but we cant keep calling for more PT for him if he doesn’t do anything on the court when he gets the time. I know, he needs to get in a flow but professionals have to take advantage when given the opportunity.
Like pintz11 said, Jazz looked like the fn Kentucky Wildcats flying around everywhere when we played all our young athletic guys. Preseason was actually a fun, exciting offense and defense to watch…now we are slow and reverting back to iso heavy lame predictable Al offense–and straight garbage defense. That Wizards team would probably have lost to the D-league all-star team, but yet still score against our first quarter interior defense, that should really be alarming.
Kevin I agree with what you say overall in terms of basketball as a hold, but when it comes to the Jazz specifically, that idea does fly, cuz Tinsley is averaging 17 minutes per game to score 0.9 points per game. He doesn’t even average a single point per game?!
And Randy Foye’s last two games:
28 minutes; 29% FG; 5 points
17 minutes; 20% FG; 2 points
yet Foye gets consistent minutes, all while playing pretty bad defense. So Burks need to be allow the same number of minutes and not yank him after one missed shot…cuz Foye had a game where he shot ZERO% (0-7), so there should be no double standard, yet there is. So Corbin is an idiot or has a personal (hater) with Burks. Either way Id dump Corbin in a millisecond in favor of Burks, all day everyday. Corbin is straight garbage and a hater.
*does NOT fly
@Omar
If Burks is overly concerned with what Tinsley is doing (like you are) that is a bad thing. Burks needs to be worried about his own play regardless of what Corbin decides to do. As fans, we can pi$$ and moan and whatever else. But he needs to have his head right, and FORCE Corbin to play him. Tinsley isn’t put into the game to score points. You know as well as I do that with basketball being a team sport, players do whatever they need to to help the team win. For Tinsley, that isn’t scoring 10 ppg. He does however get decent assists and/or helps the offense get into a flow.
Don’t get me wrong, I am sick of seeing fossil Tinsley get minutes while Burks (an up and coming force) sits on the bench. But it also frustrated me because when Burks DOES get his chance, he screws it up royally. Last year he did great, but no one can argue that he’s earned minutes this year. Of course, it makes way more sense to play him and let him develop. I agree. But the simple fact is, he HAS not earned anything.
I’m seeing the same old crap from the Jazz. A team centered around Al Jefferson, who has to have the ball to be the player he can be, BUT any team he’s the main guy for is going to be a fringe playoff team at best. He’s not suited as a 2nd or third option because of his other deficiencies on defense and he’s not a good off-ball slasher or anything, or even a good pick and roll guy.
What this is doing is WASTING good talent that would be better suited to a fast-moving offense rather than a post iso heavy offense.
I’ll be pissed if any of the young guys get traded before AL.
Yeah, trading Al will make the team go through a long adjustment and development period and we’ll lose more, but IMO the team will come out stronger, with a higher potential after that period.
Is trading him really that bad? we already need to make trades if were going anywhere this year and adding him to any deal involving jefferson/milsap instantly makes that deal look better for any other team. The jazz need a star player, and that wont happen for just jefferson or jefferson and bell, as much as it would suck to see him leave if were gonna make a trade that would really make a difference on this team were going to have to give up one of our younger players.
The only problem with packaging him with Big Al is that it makes the money even harder to work because Al’s contract is so massive.
i guess thats true but at this point its obvious corbin has no plans of giving him playing time, why not try try and move him for a point guard who will pass on the transition three once in awhile
@Kevin the money is pretty simple. Under the new CBA his contract could net someone down to 9 mil. So adding two on there would bring it to 11 mil we could bring in. The money does not have to be straight across like it used to be
i know trades dont usually happen at this point in the year but….http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=d2t65d9
@Dallan
I got ya, but what I meant by that statement is that few teams would have the salary cap space to take on Al’s contract, let alone his PLUS another like Burks. I know it could work, especially with a 3rd team inovolved. But I don’t see a three team deal happening just to move someone like Big Al. USUALLY three team deals only go down if it’s to facilitate a big name player.
*faciliatate the trade of a big name player*
Someone on Twitter today posted this trade because Gortat is not happy in Phoneix. I would take it
http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=bob5zrd
I would do that as well based on talent. But it would kind of suck to continue the logjam at PF/C and pick up another PG. Unless Mo went to the 2.
Well I think we would just release Tinsley and then we would be fine. But Gortat would just be a third big in case we do not get to keep Paul. Which we have no idea whether we are or not.
Anybody consider why a trade with Al hasn’t happened yet is because no other team wants to trade for him when he will be a free agent? why loose players to get him when you can keep the same team and still add AL?
Too much talk about trading AL, if it was going to happen it already would have. Al is going to resign with the Jazz and we will loose Favors because of it…
Favors isn’t getting the time he DESERVES, why stay with the JAZZ. My guess he goes back to Brooklyn with DWILL
LMAO HAHAHAHA “FUK U UTAH” he says with the middle finger held up high in the air.
@Tyler
A) Using the F word (even if it’s spelled like a 4 year old to get past the mods)is not necessary or appreciated.
B) No one knows how the rest of the year will play out. Have you ever heard of the “Trade Deadline”? Yeah….lots of things happen at that time.
I still like a trade i did on the trade machine just now. Burks and al or milsap either or work, for thadious young and evan turner. Get burks out of here let him become the player he can be and we get two guys coming into there own with alot of potential, and putting up good stats now as well
@Kevin
OMG those points were so awesome I’m almost blown away by your absolute sheep mentality. you even used A and B, that’s just short of brilliant…
A- Obviously you know how 4 year olds spell the F word, seams you have a problem of your own, should we call Sanduskys lawyer for you?
But to your oh so valid point B-
Trade deadline is a predetermined date where teams are no longer allowed to trade players after said date yea I know what the deadline is thnx I also know
The trade deadline will come and pass the Jazz will not do anything, they will ride Big AL hopefully to a first round playoff exit (if possible the west has improved) and try to overpay Millsap, who is getting worse at this stage of his game.
But hey we’ve done worse Jazz signed CJ Miles for 7 years picked up Raja Bell, and let go of a top 5 SG in Wesley Matthews who took over the starting position, missed out on 2 draft picks plus a chance to possibly move up in the draft and get Lillard. Hmmmm have to question some of the corporate decisions. They haven’t been so good thus far. Signed AK to a Max deal, that really worked out for us, picked up O’le Boozer even better and traded him for O’le Jefferson, all the mean while over valuing Millsaps worth… And also let go of a possible MVP PG (because he threw a ball at Haywards head), for players to get bench minutes???? nice. And lost a HOF Head Coach. DWILL should have thrown the ball at KOC head…
Yeah… lots of things DON’T happen at the trade deadline for the JAZZ.
Like I said earlier nobody wants to trade for Al Jefferson and Paul Millsap is past his prime for trade bait.