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Jazz/Hornets Analysis: One That Slipped Away
Posted by: David J. Smith on November 3rd, 2012
The author's views are entirely his or her own and may not reflect the views of the Utah Jazz.I know it’s inevitable for every team: you will win games you have no business winning and you will lose ones that, on paper, you should easily win. It makes sense to do whatever you can to earn as many of those unexpected wins, while limiting the stinging disappointments. Here’s hoping that we keep the latter to a minimum.
Here are my thoughts for the Deseret News last evening.
And some additional points:
- Let’s start with the positives. Randy Foye is clearly playing some great basketball. He appears to have a green light to shoot and so far, he’s connecting. It makes a vast difference to have that outside shooting threat. Most of his shots were good shots, with just his last attempt being rushed. At $2.5M, he was a bargain free agent who may pay dividends.
- That said, Alec Burks has played two minutes more this season than the injure Earl Watson, the exiled Raja Bell, Thurl Bailey, Brian Zettler, or the Bear. Again, I want to see how the first handful of games plays out in regards to rotations and minutes. Perhaps, on the second of a back-to-back, Burks will see some action tonight in San Antonio.
- Gordon Hayward was aggressive and seems more determined to take the ball to the hoop. It was great see him hit those two treys, especially since he struggled so much in the Spurs series. He has the talent to be a well-rounded offensive player, thanks to his combination of outside shooting, driving to the basket, and his passing abilities.
- With this in mind, a few rotation issues that confused me: keeping Jamaal Tinsley in until the 4:55 mark in the fourth quarter and not bringing Hayward back in until less than two minutes remained. Mo Williams is more of a threat going down the stretch, particularly in a close game. And Hayward made things happen right when he returned. I would love more than anything to see Coach Corbin’s make a few more in-game adjustments.
- Yes, I would’ve loved to see Derrick Favors come in for those final defensive plays and much has been said already about that in the media and on Twitter. Would he have made a difference? Perhaps, but as I need to be constantly reminded, one play (or two) do not determine a game’s outcome.
- Eric Gordon’s injuries have got to be a major concern for New Orleans. They are investing max money. He was disappointed when they matched Phoenix’s offer sheet, but he should be excited to play for a team with a lot of upside.
- Monty Williams is a great coach. He elicits great effort from his players. Ryan Anderson is also an excellent fit and could lead their team in scoring.
- Al Jefferson is struggling. He seems off his game on both ends of the court. His offensive moves are not there yet and he has reverted to holding the ball a bit more, something he did less of during the preseason (making quicker, more decisive moves). Defensively, last night he was a step slow. There were two or three times he failed to block out, thus enabling the Hornets to get easy gimmes. Robin Lopez really played well, to his credit.
- The Jazz have a difficult time with NOLA. They lost twice last year to them. Hard to stomach especially minus rookie star Anthony Davis.
- Perhaps it is harder to get into a game when the attendance is so sparse, as was the case last night? The energy just seemed inconsistent last evening and we never got into a flow.
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good points, I always like your postgame write-ups … The Jazz looked real bad last night, something has to change. For me, the problem is the rotations/coaching. Its like the coaching staff has decided who and when they will sub before the game, and are making zero in-game adjustments.
Its like giving Favors 35 minutes and Al 20 could never happen… The interior defense was atrocious, but no changes were made. I see Favors starting as a no-brainer, over Al or Millsap, the starting 5 is a bad defensive unit.
This season depends on the coaching staff more than any player. If Corbin and the coaches can’t motivate and keep players hungry by benching/rewarding them, we won’t make the playoffs this year.
Good road teams don’t rely on crowds for energy. They create their own within the team and get each other up for the game. We’ll see if this Jazz team ever develops that, but as of last night, it clearly wasn’t there.
dont know how much one can stomach before they throw up and this is making me sick.. who needs anthony davis when you have robin lopez (helped my fantasy team), give me a break. The man looked like the second coming of kareem against al. There is no such thing called “reward for play when it comes to corbin”. The main starters could be playing like crap and he wouldnt even budge. he needs to remember who saved the jazz last season with their impressive play were the young guys.. i dont see a team in the league who has lottery picks on their teams with promise and are not trying to let them show themselves other than the jazz. this seems like it was a five year plan with them picking up all the “options”. Fans should start fearing an emotional set back from favors, kanter(impressive) and burks. Dont let the Ferrari sit in the garage while maintaining the Oldsmobile.
As always, great points, David. I too am really interested in how Burks is worked into the rotation as the year goes on.
I don’t think either Tinsley nor Carroll should be rotation players ahead of Alec Burks–they are both lucky to still be in the NBA, not players to waste minutes on instead of developing a player who should be a bright part of the future of the team. In the Dallas game, Tinsley played 18 minutes and Carroll played 16 minutes. In the New Orleans game, Tinsley played 17 minutes and Carroll played 14 minutes. Give Burks all of Carroll’s minutes and most of Tinsley’s minutes and the problem is solved.
I haven’t been more disgusted about scrub players receiving playing time at the expense of better, younger players since the glory days of Jarron Collins.
great points by everyone!!! Monty out-coached Corbin, like he usually does. Hornets do not have the talent Jazz have, but they have Monty Williams, so not good to mediocre players look like fn all-stars?! Surprise, Surprise, Al’s D is sorry, it is so bad. How many starts to we have to give Al, before reality sets in for Corbin, Jazz FO??
@pintz11, they not only have the Ferrari in the garage they are pilling junk on top of it!! I am trying to trash back when exactly Burks played so awful, that he should not deserve minutes?? Do the names Bell, Howard, and Cj mean anything?? They played like trash, and yet they averaged 23+ minutes each. Burks played well in SL, in preseason, I mean when are we suppose to “ya now Burks deserves minutes?” Where is that line? “He needs to play better D,” I hear….uuhhh, did you see that center guy Al play D all last season, in the playoffs, in preseason, and last night??? Thats why I use the word “hater” when I talk about Burks getting no minutes, cuz its hypocritical to say he doesn’t deserve minutes cuz he he doesn’t play D well enough….”haters”
I think when the Jazz schedule came out, Corbin set up his rotations, so I don’t expect in-game strategy from Corbin.
There’s an easy way to get Burks the minutes he deserves.
Carroll (a “never-will-be-good”) and Tinsley (a “has been” at this point in his career) are lucky just to still be in the league; they certainly shouldn’t be getting minutes at the expense of Alec Burks who should be a bright part of the future of the Jazz.
In the Dallas game, DeMarre Carroll played 16 minutes and Jamaal Tinsley played 18 minutes. In the New Orleans game, DeMarre Carroll played 14 minutes and Jamaal Tinsley played 17 minutes. Burks played 2 minutes in the Dallas game in “garbage” time, and got 1 assist and went 0-2 from the foul line.
Carroll’s production in the Dallas game was 5 points on 1-5 shooting from the field, 0-1 shooting on 3pt shots, 3-4 shooting on foul shots, 2 rebounds (1 offensive, 1 defensive), 2 assists, 0 steals, 1 block, 0 turnovers and 1 personal foul.
Tinsley’s production in the Dallas game was 2 points on 1-4 shooting from the field, 0-1 shooting on 3 pt shots, 0-0 shooting on foul shots, 1 (defensive) rebound, 4 assists, 1 steal, 1 block, 1 turnover, and 3 personal fouls.
TINSLEY/CARROLL TOTAL PRODUCTION FOR DALLAS GAME in 34 MINUTES: 7 points on 2-9 shooting from the field; 0-2 shooting on 3pt shots, 3-4 shooting on foul shots, 3 rebounds (1 offensive, 2 defensive), 6 assists, 1 steal, 1 block, 1 turnover and 4 personal fouls.
Carroll’s production in the New Orleans game was 4 points on 2-6 shooting from the field, 0-2 shooting on 3pt shots, 0-0 shooting on foul shots, 1 (offensive) rebound, 0 assists, 0 steals, 1 block, 0 turnovers and 1 personal foul.
Tinsley’s production in the New Orleans game was 0 points on 0-2 shooting from the field, 0-1 shooting on 3 pt shots, 0-0 shooting on foul shots, 1 (defensive) rebound, 6 assists, 1 steal, 0 blocks, 1 turnover, and 1 personal foul.
TINSLEY/CARROLL TOTAL PRODUCTION FOR NEW ORLEANS GAME IN 31 MINUTES: 4 points on 2-8 shooting from the field; 0-3 shooting on 3pt shots, 0-0 shooting on foul shots, 2 rebounds (1 offensive, 1 defensive), 6 assists, 1 steal, 1 block, 1 turnover and 2 personal fouls.
TINSLEY/CARROLL AVERAGE PRODUCTION FIRST TWO GAMES IN 32.5 MINUTES: 5.5 points on 2-8.5 shooting from the field; 0-2.5 shooting on 3pt shots, 1.5-2 shooting on foul shots, 2.5 rebounds (1 offensive, 1.5 defensive), 6 assists, 1 steal, 1 block, 1 turnover and 3 personal fouls.
Other than perhaps the assists, I think Burks would far exceed the combined production of Carroll and Tinsely in 32.5 minutes per game.
Give Burks all or most of Carroll’s minutes and Tinsley’s minutes, and the problem will be solved.
@paul:agreed..
@Paul that sounds like a plan, hopefully Corbin wakes up and implements.
@paul agreed