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Utah Jazz/Sacramento Kings Analysis
Posted by: David J. Smith on November 24th, 2012
The author's views are entirely his or her own and may not reflect the views of the Utah Jazz.It seems like ages, thanks to the Thanksgiving break, but it was fun doing an analysis for last night’s Jazz/Kings game again. A few additional thoughts:
- I wasn’t initially excited when I heard the news about Marvin Williams and Derrick Favors switching up spots in the starting line-up. While that particular unit struggled at the beginning, both Williams and Favors had strong games. I’m sure Tyrone will give this line-up another run, but I’ll be curious–as will all Jazz fans–to see what the regular rotations will be come mid-season.
- Count me as a big Marvin Williams fan. I really like what he’s doing. Friday could’ve been his best performance in a Jazz uniform yet: 20 pts, 6-12 FGs, 7-7 FTs, four boards. He was aggressive and was the offensive spark that was lacking in the first quarter.
- It was awesome to see Earl Watson back on the court. While he only tallied two assists and two rebounds, he looks quick and active.
- I won’t delve too much in the cheering/booing Jimmer Fredette issue, but I find the whole thing bizarre, fascinating, and unique. Truth be told, I am a BYU guy and as a result, am a Jimmer fan. While I want him to succeed, the overwhelming cheering that occurred last season and last night was interesting. Now, the booing–why? Is he public enemy #1? Is it just because he was a Cougar? I think it is unneeded.
- Furthermore, many cringe at the thought of Jimmer in a Jazz uniform. My thought is, if a guy–whether it be Jimmer or anyone else–can help us win, I’m all for it. Some may not want him here because BYU is his alma mater. Personally, I would’ve loved to have had Keith Van Horn, Andre Miller, Michael Doleac, etc. play for us, just because they are/were great players.
- All that said, not saying I think Jimmer should come to Utah or not. Just sharing some quick thoughts. I am anxious to see how he does in a different system than Sacramento’s.
- You can look at things both from a glass half-full or glass half-empty mindset. For the former, Utah came back and won the game. In regards to the latter, the Jazz shouldn’t have been in that position (same in the Toronto game). I’ll go with the “glad we won” side of things, with a hope that we can start playing with more focus.
- DeMarcus Cousins’ scowl is already in midseason form. No one has worse body language, but man, is he talented.
- Keith Smart looks a bit lost out there.
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Watson and Tinsley are fine with assists but any threat to score lessons their value. I cringe if Mo goes down. If Mo goes down play a Hayward/Burks backcourt.
This Jimmer thing is just plain childish on both ends. Welcome a former player or college player but leave it there, they are now the enemy.
Thomas did not play at all for the Kings?? Whats up??
Where was Sap last night?
Try AL with the second unit and start Favors. Al will get points and rebounds galore on the second unit..
Hayward and Burks combo was great last year, why not go back to it?! We look super unathletic at times. Burks is a phenomenal athlete that can cause havoc. If Mo is hurt and Watson gets like 20 minutes tonight and Burks a DNP, Im gonna be pissed.
Im not sure why Millsap is getting stiffed and not Al?! Play Milsap WITH Favors and we become a wwaayy better D team. “but how are we going to score?”….by playing Burks, and Millsap can score some as well.
The Toronto raptors are all but beggin a team to take Jose Calderon. I love Tinsley and Watson, but they are 3rd string point guards.
If we had Calderon running the second unit, or even alternated between Calderon and Mo Williams, our team would be so much better!!!
We’re going to regret our inactivity when a contender signs Calderon for dirt cheap and he proceeds to destroy second units around the league.
If Mo gets hurt and lets say Jazz have to play Clippers, that will be total destruction having Tinsley guard CP3. Are weakness at PG will end up killing us later, by then Calderon with probably backing up Nash or something.
Since fakers are hot for Bell,three team Bell to fakers,Morris (Lakers) Calderon to Jazz.Tinsley two other players from lakers to Raptors. Get it done.. Would throw in a pick or Carroll also.
Question, do people think being a GM is that easy? You cant just think a trade is good and make it.
Ugh David, seriously. People like you who cram “Jimmer mania” down everybody’s throats are the reason he gets booed every time he touches the ball.
I was at the game, and though I didn’t boo, I couldn’t blame the thousands that were booing. Being force fed the hype surrounding this overrated kid is beyond out of control, so is it really so surprising to hear people boo?
And now you feed the fire by devoting half your article to this player who was barely a factor rather than focusing on a Jazz victory.
There are a couple of different trade sites. I like Real GM trade checker. And yes people like to play GM. A lot of people on this site suggested a Marvin for Devin trade. Most don’t even come close to happening. Jazz want to rid themselves of Bell in the worst way. Roumor that the lakers are biting people help the GM figure out a way to do it. Let’s see of something happens.
@TACOREV Sorry to have disappointed you. I wasn’t trying to “cram” anything. And he was a factor last night with those three three-pointers. Most of my post, especially if you went to the article link, was about the win. Thanks for the feedback.
Jimmers defense looks a little better this year. Thats about it. I think he could make a better rotation player on a different team, but i dont see a wealth of untapped potential for him.
@Taco
If you live in Utah, then you probably should expect sports fans to discuss Jimmer. There have been many Ute players go on to the NBA and no one whines about them. I still hear a lot about Andre Miller and I don’t accuse people of “cramming” him down my throat. Now Kobe Bryant? Yes, he and LeBron get crammed down our throats by the national media. Jimmer was as well when he was at BYU, but I also hear a crap ton about Damian Lillard. So you can relax.
Booing former Utah college stars is pathetic. It’s also pathetic to cheer your face off for them. I clap when Jimmer is announced, and it ends there. I do not clap when he makes a shot, and I do not want him to play well enough to beat us. I get so tired of people who are more caught up with other fans habits than focusing on the game. You whine about David’s post, but your entire comment made no reference to anything except Jimmer and David’s comments about him.
David might have devoted half his article to a topic that is of interest to a large portion of fans, but you devoted ALL of your post to nothing of use.
The Jazz won the game, and Fredette was a factor. I care about how our Ute, BYU, and Wildcat players do in the pros. Heck, I even paid attention when JC Carroll was in the mix for a potential roster spot a while back in some training camps.
Andre Miller and other Ute players have never been hyped the way “Jimmer” was, and you know it. Damian Lillard hasn’t received a fraction of the hype either… even though in his case, the hype would at least be deserved.
So if you call the 6th leading scorer on the losing team a factor, then I guess he was a factor in that game. So he was about the 12th most important player in a game where 21 players played. Yep, keep telling yourself he’s a big factor.
All I did was answer David’s question when he asked, “Now the booing — why?”
It’s simple. He was praised as the next greatest thing since James Naismith tossed a ball into a peach basket, and even after it was clear how overrated and overhyped he was, the fanboys are still clamoring about him. THAT is why people boo him, they’re tired of “Jimmermania” being shoved down their throats, especially on this site where people come to read about the Jazz and not some hack that everyone worshipped, even after he turned out to be a bust.
I for one liked your post David as usual . I would like to give my 10 cents worth here . I am a big BYU fan and I do cheer on all the Utah teams when they play . I am also adament about cheerin for players that have succeeded to make it to the pros . See to me it is a bigger issue with schools that seam to get all the attention like the BCS conferences . They all seem to think that because our schools play ( in their perceived minds ) lesser quality schools and conferences , that the players are not of that caliber . So when a player moves on to the pros and succeed that is a testament to the quality of our players . So here is my thoughts on this Jimmer thing , I myself think that he will suceed on a team that will play him . I will cheer his success but I will never cheer for him to beat the Jazz . I would not be apposed at havin him here . I think that he would give us some outside shooting .
But I have felt that way about other players from other Utah schools . So I feel that it is ok to cheer him in his intro but it takes away from our home court advantage when fans do it in the game . That is just my take on this .
Go Jazz !!!!
A player isn’t a bust when the coach wont play him. Jimmer is still basically in his rookie year with the minutes he’s been given.
I don’t cheer for Jimmer, and I don’t think he is the greatest thing to ever happen. But I do get annoyed by people who get so jealous because they hate BYU. I HATE the Utes but I have cheered for all of the above mentioned players as well as Alex Smith a few years back. There comes a time when you have to just respect people.
I cant stand BYU FANS your one sided egotistical minds have got to go, just because your religion believes your the only true church doesn’t mean your the only ones correct in the real world… ughhhh. get over it sheep. By the way science is proving religion to be a farce more and more each day so keep altering how your beliefs work, but in sports stick to the facts.
You get on here and rant and rave about how Burke’s plays poorly and hasn’t earned his minutes but your argument for Jimmer is he hasn’t played enough, which way is it?
Its ok for the white guy to suck he needs more minutes? but the black guy you hold to a higher standard because he’s black and should be more athletic and should play basketball better, so he doesn’t deserve his minutes if he screws up?
well you’re officially the dumbest person on this site. Congratulations. I hope you don’t get banned though because it would take weeks to make your idiocy clearly and well known.
A) Religion has nothing to do with it. But the fact you bring it up proves that you have major insecurities and bitterness.
B)My egotistical mind was actually proven to be valuable in this situation, because clearly my brain functions better than yours seems to.
C)Science is often wrong, also science is a form of religion genius.
D) Give specifics of people on here who say Burks doesn’t need more time, but Jimmer does. Go ahead…..a holes should be able to back themselves up and this is your opportunity. If you are going to talk big and attack everyone on this site in one way or another, go ahead and prove your point instead of just talking out of your a**.
Pretty sure “trying2bebanned” is jazzman. Always bringing up race and religion. Let me guess, Hayward is the worst player ever because he’s white. You’re like a broken record, no matter which screen name you use.
Oh yeah I do remember that tool from a while back. It makes you wonder how bad his life must be to see the world in that way. Hopefully some day he forgives himself and finds what he’s searching for.