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Poll: Big Lineup next season?
Posted by: Jason Michael Crannell on May 10th, 2012
The author's views are entirely his or her own and may not reflect the views of the Utah Jazz.Toward the end of the regular season, Coach Corbin began to experiment with a “big” lineup of Favors, Jefferson, and Millsap (at small forward). Against most opponents, this lineup proved to be quite productive. The Spurs were able to have success against this lineup in the playoffs, but that is because they are an elite level team (of which there are less then 5 in the NBA). They had a great coach, more talented players, and a much deeper bench then the Jazz. For all those reasons, I don’t think you can fairly judge the possible future success of the “big” lineup. I think this lineup can achieve a great deal against 85% of the teams in the league. Unlike the Spurs, most teams don’t have the necessary ingredients on their rosters to combat such a formidable trio (especially if the Jazz can bring in a shooter in the off season to compliment them).
My question is this: Do you want to see the “big” lineup next season (possibly from Game 1 of the regular season forward), or would you rather the Jazz traded either Jefferson or Millsap this summer, and went with a more traditional lineup?
Remember, once a trade is made, you can’t take it back.
Is the “big” lineup intriguing enough to stick with for one more season?
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We could always try it out and try to trade mid-season at the deadline…but I don’t know if that’s a better option or not.
The one expendable player has to be Big Al. Big line up could still work with Kanter, Favors, Millsap and theyd be a better D team, and probably just as good offensively cuz Kanter can score and Favors will be better on O.
The line up for next year is difficult to say now, I think you may see a different offense than the jAZZ have had in the past, and some new players to add a punch to our outside shooting. Lets not set next years starting line up until we see how the above things develop for the coming season.
I do not think it is effective against well run teams. That is who we are going to be playing come playoff time and we can not just switch it up when the post season comes. I hate the idea of a mid season trade for a big player. If Jefferson or Millsap is going to be traded then it needs to be in the off season. We do not need to take steps back in the middle of the season cause you throw players in there mid season.
Every one outside the team sees that Jefferson should be traded. So even though the team will not say it they are probably thinking about it. They just keep everything close to theirselves.
If we want to help Jefferson lets just get in on the Nets, Magic trade and get Marshon Brooks from the Nets and the Magic can have Al
No.
I think there is a happy medium:
If the jazz can get a legit 3 who has size but can shoot and pass, not that i would want his bitch ass but like Odom type player.
If the jazz get the 8 pick maybe Jones III would fill that spot??? Jazz will have a 6′11 plus frontline w Hayward has the 2???
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Bismillah! No – we will not let you go – let him go
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This is the segment of the season that we are on now, this what i will think about every time i read a post about our lineup.
In all seriousness I don’t believe the big lineup will be effective for the season. We will suffer the same fate, lack of outside shooting.
I want to see trades, a leader and a shooter, then we could talk bout lineups.
The Jazz are in desperate need of an outside shooter. Even with the big 3 in there you could see that the Jazz could not do a thing because their was zero threat from the outside. The Spurs did not even have to play defense from the outside. I am not to worried about the line up right now but I just know if the Jazz do not get someone that can be consistent from the outside the Jazz will be in trouble once again. Hayward and Burks need to improve big time which I think they will. But the Jazz need to get them some help this off season.
Hayward and Burks just needs to shoot, shoot, shoot. And we have to get a coaching staff that will let him do that.
I don’t mind keeping the big lineup, but I don’t think it is a general solution, and it will only work if Millsap is willing to be the backup Power Forward. Then we can bring him in at the Small Forward when if makes sense, but I don’t see it as an option that will work against elite teams. That said, it was our best lineup against the Spurs, even though it wasn’t enough to win.
I still think our best lineup against the Spurs would have been Favors in on Duncan over Al, and Al off the bench vs Splitter/Blair where Duncan went to the bench, Millsap at PF, Carrol at SF, Hayward at SG, Harris/Tinsley at PG.
Yeah, yeah, “Favors offense needs to improve for that if Al is on the bench”. No, I disagree. It only seems that way because Corbin insisted on trying to run the same plays for Favors as he does for Al all game (low post ISO). You just need to run a more fluid, passing and movement based offense that is more conducive to Favors’ game. Hayward/Favors pick and roll. More high post / low post screens and switches. Favors thrives in that because he’s got quickness, speed and agility.
My .02
So anyway, to answer the question, I think we should trade Al and Harris for Kyle Lowry or Dragic (and Kevin Martin?), start Favors. Go with more movement in the offense, not so much post ISO. Use Evans more off the bench, use the $10M trade exception to get another shooter. Use the team option we have on Carroll for another year.
Or trade Millsap to Portland for Matthews and one of their lotteries and grab a young PG.
Get a backup big somewhere (Fes???!!)
Agree KC
What do you think about AK47 coming back and playing the 3? Thats actaully a bigger line up than with Millsap, Kanter, Favors, AK. And no one would be out of position? ? At WWAAAAAYYYY less money of course. Dragic is a must have i think.
AK at $2M? Ok.
Anything over 3M would be too much.
I hope AK could be back… For less than 3 M.
WOW KC really? LOL!!!!! Kyrylo Fesenko is one of the WORST basketball players of all time. He is the epitome of fat, lazy, and disintierested. Some team signed him at the beginning of the season, then immediately waved him after working him out ONCE.
Greg Ostertag is a better basketball player than Fesenko. He’s in better shape, too.
Andrei Kirilenko? Are you kidding me? The glass man? Come on, Omar. That is a truly stupid notion.
While we’re at it, lets just get the old gang togther. Yeah lets have Fesenko, Carlos Boozer, Ak47, Deron Williams, Wesley Matthews, Mehmet Okur, and Ronnie Price back.
Even if we could, that team would get destroyed.
Williams is gone. Kirilenko is gone. Fesenko is gone. GET OVER IT. Finito. Finished. Gone. Forever. Never coming back. Ever. Ever.
Hahaha! Did anyone catch that video of Fes at Disney World? Pretty funny stuff.
I wont take credit for the stupid notion since i wasnt the impetus for it, but HELL ya i agree with it!!
AK at less than 3M, jazz paid CJ 3.7M and he was counterproductive, at least AK tries to pass. Most of the old gang can go to hell. Okur is cool but i wouldn’t want him back. Bell sure wasnt worth his pay. AK would be PIECE not the franchise savior, just a piece.
I was talking fourth string big (fifth if you count Evans as a big), so yes, I think a $1M/year Fes fits that. Or a Francisco Elson. Need a roster filler in case of injury and Kyrylo at least knows how to use his fouls. Agree on your assessment of him though.
Basic premise is shorten the big men rotation and add to our perimeter (wing, PG) simultaneously via the right trade of Al/Millsap.