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Toxic Raja Trade Idea.
Posted by: Jazzaholic on December 31st, 2012
The author's views are entirely his or her own and may not reflect the views of the Utah Jazz.The Bulls are looking to shed $3.24m to get them under the Luxury Tax. They are shopping Rip Hamilton $5m (+$5m NONguaranteed), without much interest, despite his NBA clippings.
The Jazz are looking to get rid of Toxic Raja, $3.48m.
The trade would decrease Chicago’s payroll by $1.52m and their luxury tax by $2.28m. A total savings of $3.8m
The Jazz get rid of toxic waste and get a serviceable player in Hamilton, 34 year old , 6-7, 193 lb G,
13.6 ppg, 2.2 rpg, 2.2 apg in 26.3 minutes.
The Bull, if not satisfied with Toxic Raja, can buy him out before March 1st and get under the luxury tax level and Raja could be signed by a contender.
Both teams MAY make the playoffs, but really are going nowhere fast.
If the Jazz like Hamilton, he has a NONguaranteed $5m next year, so it’s even better than an expiring contract.
Who says no?
Jazzaholic
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DO IT!!!
I think Hamilton has some left in the tank. Anything would be better than Toxic Raja.. I think the non-guarantee lasts until the first week of January. So they could wait until then to make up their minds.. I like it..
Also the Raptors are begging for someone to take Bargs. He is injured but it seems like a healable injury. Word is he is not tradable until he is healed which might be after the trade deadline. Do the Jazz take a chance?? I have watched Bargs and he can be very good. Seven footer. Jazz offer AL,Watson for Bargs, Calderon, and a first pick. Who says no??
get it done jazzaholic. LK id send millsap not Al
I wouldn’t do the Hamilton trade or the Bargs trade. Adding another 2 guard to the mix further complicates an already complicated minute-distribution at the SG/SF position. As for Bargs, he would stretch the offense which would be good, but he is not very tough and not a good defensive player. Our complaints about Big Al not being good on D would simply shift from him to Bargs….IMO.
Rip Hamilton? Just what we need…another aging veteran to take time from the young guys like Hayward and Burks..
@Shane – but Bargs wouldnt demand the mins that Al does.
@Jason- I completely agree. We already complain about the washed up veterans taking time from the C4. Why add another vet to the mix so that Burks can go back to DNP’s. I don’t think this would be a good idea.
i’d rather cut him than bring in another SG… especially when all we have complained about is getting burks more minutes. does anyone think he would see time behind hamilton & foye with corbin as coach? nope.
Nonguaranteed means you can waive him anytime after Jun 30, 2013 at no cost. If you keep him he becomes guaranteed, if he is still part of the team on 1/10/2014.
Bargs has $11m and $12m coming up. He won’t be tradeable for 2-4 weeks to see if his elbow is healed enough to play a few games. You can also throw Toxic Raja in there too, instead of Earl to make the trade. They would probably do it without the pick. I’m not so sure the Jazz want to be tied down for 2 more years with Barg’s salary. What would really be good, and it works, is Bargs/Jose for Big Al, Toxic Raja and Earl.
If Millsap will accept the 6th man role, the Jazz should try to resign him. Paul doesn’t have enough salary to make the trade work.
Hamilton does cut into Burks PT, but he could also be a good mentor to Alec.
Bargs defense has the same rap as Big Al, but Al does a better job defending at the rim, blocking shots and rebounding. Bargs would probably play a stretch 3-4 for the Jazz, so different position and expectations.
It’s not that you want Rip, as much as you want to get rid of Toxic Raja. At least he could play, if the Jazz need him. Raja is still lounging around South Beach evening out his tan.
The Jazz are not going to waive Toxic Raja, unless forced to do so. There’s little or no demand for Raja. He’s not even with the team. That’s beyond nonproductive, he’s a monetary drain taking up a roster spot. That’s why the 3 for 2 Toronto trade looks so appealing. The Jazz free up a roster spot, get a starting point guard, dump Raja and Earl and only get stuck with Barg’s salary for 2 years. Who knows, he might blossom in Utah, Memo did.
Jazzaholic
Damn Jason stole the words right out of my mouth!
Our biggest issue (well, second biggest besides Corbin) is ridding our roster of washed up hacks… and now people want to go and add more??
Boston is apparently in love with Cousins (more so now that he dropped a triple double), maybe in the backwash we can send Al to Kings who will need a center.
Bobcats have lost 18 straight, so maybe send Millsap and Watson to Bobcats for Tyrus Thomas and Kemba Walker, and since we are talking a bad contract we get their first round pick.
So basically Jazz “lose” Al, Millsap, and Watson for
PTE (15M)
Tyrus Thomas (a bad contract albeit 3 year 8M, but expires when Burks and Kanter are up)
Kemba Walker
n 1st round pick
The real question is where do you find a dumping ground for Toxic waste?
The ideal for the Jazz would be a team who would sign him for the Vet minimum, which the Jazz would deduct from his salary, before waiving him to sign with the other team. This frees up a roster spot and saves the Jazz some money.
Otherwise, you need a trade partner, where they both swallow hard and make the trade. The lump in Chicago’s throat is the $1.50/$1.00 luxury tax and the fact they will be in the luxury tax next year, making them a repeat offender.
It boils down to, what team is interested in an outright signing of Raja, or what team will accept Raja in a trade for some other reason?
The Jazz will waive him before accepting an unpalatable contract.
Jazzaholic
Scour the rosters and find a C, PF or SF, since they won’t take playing time away from Alec, with a salary around $2.3m-$5.2m (expiring), who’s team would have a reason to trade for Toxic Raja.
Jazzaholic
Al and Cousins salaries are not within 150%. As such, won’t work.
You lost me on the $15m TPE. I can’t see how you generate it.
I’d take Bargs, assuming healthy elbow, instead of Thomas.
I don’t think the BobCats, soon to be the Hornets II, as soon as NO becomes the Dirty Brown Pelicans, give up their draft pick without a lot of protection, if at all.
Jazzaholic
In the backwash of Boston getting Cousins; in other words, if the Kings are in need of center, after having lost Cousins, maybe they will need a center—enter Al:
Future first and 15M PTE for Al
In a separate trade…
Jazz trade Millsap and Watson for Tyrus Thomas, Kemba Walkter, and a future 1st from Bobcats. Thomas is for depth and a future first, plus Jazz upgrade backup PG position with Walker.
In total from both (separate) trades:
Al, Millsap, Watson becomes
Thomas, Walker, 2 future first (Kings and Bobcats), and PTE 15M (=Al salary)
SAC is over the cap, even if you take away Cousins salary and get nothing back, let alone $15m under the cap, in order to take Big Al and give back a pick. So, no TPE can be generated by SAC. You’d have to do a trade with SAC for Big Al.
Can’t see the Jazz taking on Thomas’s bad salary. They’d let Millsap and Watson walk at the end of the year first.
The BobCats are not under the cap either, so no TPE there.
You have to find a team $15m under the cap to make the Al-pick work to generate the $15m TPE.
Jazzaholic
We got the $11m Memo TPE, because the nets were $11m+ under the cap and needed a center. (the rape and pillage of the year!)
Jazzaholic
I thought Kings were negative $12,382, 369 (NBA trade machine)? I figured even if they only lost Cousin (which I am sure wouldn’t be the case), theyd at least 15M under the cap.
The first round pick from Bobcats is compensation for taking a bad contract from the Bobcats. That would just be icing on top of switching Watson to Kemba, albeit through giving up Millsap.
Most of you do not understand what Jazzaholic is talking about.
Toxic Raja in not here anyway. Remember last year when Jazz got down to nine bodies?? Rip would be another body who you can get rid of after the season. He could teach the young guards quite a bit.
Raptor are begging someone to take Bargs off their hands. His injury is not serious and could be back at the same time as MO. He could blossom here and Favors/Kanter would be getting plying time while he is healing. The key is getting rid of Watson, Bell, and AL. Jazz acceptance would be getting one of their point guards with the deal. Lowery has been injured twice and is now comming back but Calderon is playing well and still starting. So either one of them would be in the package..
By the way Thomas is owed twenty-seven million over three years. No one will take that contract..
I really think Bargnani would be a good fit with the C4. I think burks is starting to get more control and team passing to his game. If this keeps progressing, his ball handling and passing skills can hang with any PG. Same with his defense, his close out on the perimeter is getting much better.
Pick up bargnani, new coach, draft picks and let Burks start at PG with Hayward as a point forward for the rest of the year and see how it goes. Back them up with tinsley. And put Tinsley with Burks together once in awhile to show him the ropes. But it does no good if burks never gets a chance to run point and have some growing slack if he makes a few mistakes. Ball handling wouldnt be any worse than Miami’s LBJ and Wade sharing PG responsibilities.
Kings Payroll 2013 2014 2015 2016 2017 2018
John Salmons$8,080,000$7,580,000$7,000,000$0$0
Marcus Thornton$7,632,500$8,165,000$8,697,500$0$0
Francisco Garcia$6,100,000$6,400,000$0$0$0
Chuck Hayes$5,486,250$5,722,500$5,958,750$0$0
Tyreke Evans$5,251,824$6,927,156$0$0$0
Jason Thompson $5,250,000$5,643,750$6,037,500$6,431,250$6,825,000
DeMarcus Cousins$3,880,800$4,916,973$6,519,198$0$0
Thomas Robinson $3,374,640$3,526,440$3,678,360$4,660,482$6,179,799
Aaron Brooks$3,250,000$3,396,250$0$0$0
Travis Outlaw$3,000,000$3,000,000$3,000,000$0$0
James Johnson$2,812,006$3,950,868$0$0$0
Jimmer Fredette$2,406,240$2,574,120$3,282,003$4,470,088$0
Tyler Honeycutt$850,000$900,000$0$0$0
Isaiah Thomas$762,195$884,293$0$0$0
TOTALS:$58,136,455 $43,640,740 $23,693,750 $6,431,250 $6,825,00
The Kings are already over the cap at $58,136,455, and still over even if they give Cousins away.
And, Rip is better than Toxic Raja, at least he can play if needed, but the Jazz don’t have to play him, nor do they have to pay him after Jun 30th, if they don’t want to, plus a team option player is the ultimate trading chip.
Bargs doesn’t play a game anywhere similar to Favors or Kanter and shouldn’t take any time away from them.
You know I would love to give the Alec-Gordon/co point guard a good run to see if it works like I think it can.
Jazzaholic
Sacramento has $119,369 in cap space, not $12,382,369 which is how much they owe the league for having been over the cap. so Al to replace cousins is out of the question.
i think your over-estimating millsap value by a mile. Kemba is avg 18 & 6, and is 22. Teams value both production & potential, and who do you think has more potential kemba at 22 or Paul at 27? So, I don’t think you could get tyrus thomas, kemba walker AND a 1st for paul and earl. We’d have to give them a pick and then get a choice of kemba or a 1st IMO.
@jazzeduponit I’ve been saying trade millsap for calderon for weeks. It makes too much sense not to do it, the only hang up is bargnani and toronto’s stance that he must be part of the deal. Just playing around on the trade machine, its hard to figure out a deal to get both bargnani and calderon. We could trade Al and Paul, but i really don’t think that will happen. I believe it would have to be a 3 team deal. But i too would love him here, and think he’d be a good fit.
If any of you saw Dennis Lindsey’s latest comments, he specifically mentioned the Jazz’s avoidance of bad contracts. That eliminates some names in the league….Thomas being one of them. That’s one of the worst contracts in the league, not sure why we’d take that on.
It’s new years and jazz fans are blogging about the team lmao. True fans in Utah. Jazz should include Watson. Get this trade done asap. and jump in on Boston and kings trade and bring rondo to Utah…:-)
Lets see a Burks/Hayward backcourt.
Burks/Hayward! Hear, hear!
Note to self: never post off-handed trade (possibility) comment from New Years party, lol.
I guess I have ti keep talking about it since its become a hot topic.
First, I dont think Jazz will trade Al or Millsap. There will be trade talk, then KOC will say we have a playoff team you wouldnt like the trades, etc, etc.
Im reading mixed comments: is Tyrus Thomas one of the worst contacts that exists, OR would the Jazz be screwing the Bobcats by gettin Kemba and a 1st round pick (FUTURE first, which could be 2013 or 2031, I prefer latter, but future is open ended)??
If its a horrible contract, then Id ask for another future first. If we are screwing Bobcats, my price point would be the same: Millsap and Watson or no deal.
The way I see it, Id rather have Thomas for two years (9, 10M), AND Kemba, AND a 1st round pick than resign Millsap at 3 year 30M, or 4 year 36M (he rejected 8M so Im assuming 9M is the starting point. Im not married to this deal, its just hypothetical and off-handed, but if I could dump Millsap (who seems upset) and Watson (a waste of 20 minutes a night) to get Kemba (young talented PG we need), a backup big (whose contract expires when Jazz are due to resign Burks and Kanter), and a future first—I think thats a good deal.
As far as Al to Kings, I dont even know how to address that since I dont even know the details if the Cousins to Boston trade (again cuz this is hypothetical). I just assumed since Cousins (a center would leave for Boston) is gone and Celtics probably wont send KG (I would assume) they MIGHT need a center—enter Al. I dont know what the Kings roster from the future will look like (again hypothetical) , so I dont know what would be in a possibly and hypothetical future trade between Jazz and Kings. Im simply saying they can be trade partners, thats it. And I would try and give up as little as possible: TPE, if thats not possible once the future hypothetical Kings roster is set, then Id take back so good talent Kings have, including but not limited to Thomas (PG), Thompson (backup big); they dont have a 1st round pick, Jazz have 2—give them the worst of the two if we are gettig a good deal.
*latter in terms of my listing (i.e. 2013) not latter in terms of chronology
*former listed, not latter chronology
I have a huge mancrush on kemba, i would love to get him. I just don’t think the bobcats would give up him & thomas(even with his terrible contract)for essentially millsap cause watson is a non factor.
Although…
i could see a trade of millsap and watson for ramon sessions and hakeem warrick.
Jazz playoff hopes depend on how long Mo is out for, if it is 8 weeks the next two months are going to be horrific for the Jazz. They may want to start looking toward next year now.
I would not mind a trade for Sessions and Warrick.
Basically, Jazz might lose just about every game Mo misses, like noneyadb said, and Millsap looks like hes not having any bench role, so basically we NEED a PG that is quality, and Millsap needs to be trade, as does Al.
A playoff team is not going to give up a rotation player for expiring Millsap or Al so Jazz need to find a team thats building or just plain ole desperate. I was hoping Bobcats would keep losing so theyd just hit the reset button. However with Mo out, we might soon become that desperate team. I bet Jazz lose every game Watson plays 20+ minutes.
NBA salary cap for 2012-13 season set at $58.044 million. The Kings are at $58,136,455, but they still have the cap space holds of $17,533,665, which puts them over the cap. In any case, there is no way they can take on $15m without trading players. No TPE via the Kings.
It’s very hard to get a trade with a high first round draft pick in his initial contract. Teams don’t want to part with them. If they are playing well, their salary is low and they want to keep them. If they are playing poorly, you probably don’t want them.
Dennis is right about avoiding bad contracts, that includes resigning players to bad contracts. The new CBA has changed a lot of ways teams do business. The HATED Lakers are even trying to reduce salaries. The Jazz have great flexibility for making trades and going into next year.
I wouldn’t be surprised to see a bunch of trades or no trades at all. They have $26,116,788 in 2013-14 guaranteed salary + $58,099,513 in cap space holds, which they can revoke and have up to $31,982,725 under the cap to spend in the FA market next summer.
Because the minimum team salary has been raised in the new CBA, it’s hard to find a team during the season under the cap, who can take a player, without a trade, and give a draft pick + TPE.
Jazzaholic
@jazzaholic I think your last statement says it all. There is not much out there and people are trying to get rid of bad contracts. And guess what? You have to take something bad back to get something good. People are not just going to give up an asset for a 3 month rental of Al or Paul. Not gonna happen. The time has come and passed to get some good assets. We wasted the whole off season doing nothing with our lame duck GM who was being replaced but would not find a replacement till after everything was done and over with which was a HUGE mistake to begin with..
We could have been involved in multiple trades this year with big salary moving and yes we would have been able to get some good assets back by doing that. Man would it not have been nice if we would have gotten in the Philly trade and traded then Al for Vucevic? Rebounding machine right there and instead we sat on our laurels did nothing and expected it all to just flow. Now it is blowing up in our face and all I am going to say is I TOLD YOU SO!!
I don’t think El Cubano would do it, but…
Millsap, Earl, GSWs 1st round pick for
Collison and Brand.
Paul is a definite upgrade for the Mavs and Collison is a definite upgrade for the Jazz. Brand is coming off the bench and willing to take a secondary role, which Millsap appears not to be in the mood for.
It would give more time to Favors/Kanter.
Jazzaholic
The Jazz can also resign their own UFAs, but so can another team, if a trade is made, because they retain their Bird rights. This is the case with Dwight, the Lakers can make him a better offer than any other team, because they have his Bird rights.
This would be the same if Millsap or Jefferson is traded to another team. It’s not just a rental. They will now hold an advantage over any other team. Plus, they can’t come back to the Jazz for a year.
Jazzaholic
As Dallan said by the Jazz not making trades in the offseason the Jazz are now forced to sign below average vets just to fill next years roster. Nice to have $30 Mil available to sign FA, but who is coming to Utah? Not Chris Paul, not anyone better then what we have, and look at how much everybody gripes about the vets now. Jazz are in the revolving door of .500 ball. I would assume Jefferson stays and Millsap will receive an offer Jazz wont compete with, and if Mo, Randy, and Marvin see greener pastures they could all leave as well..
@Dallan, perfectly said!! I remember you saying how good Vucevic would be. All the good deals are off the table, and in about 3 weeks Jazz will become pretty desperate team.
Our best case scenario is that we piggy-back on some big $ deals, that need to move big contacts.
Noneyadb you hit it on the head: this means Jazz use all their cap money to over pay mediocre vets. In fact, I bet Jazz keep pretty much the same roster—only difference is they will be getting more money: Foye 8M, Mo 10M, Al maybe at a discount 13M.
KOC could have set up Jazz for next five years, instead Jazz miss playoff, GSW pick drops in value (probably around #17-21 pick), get nothing for Al and Millsap, and “develop” vets like Foye, Watson, Tinsley, Sap, Al, at the expense of Jazz youth.
I think that we cant know what is goin on with the trade issues . Maybe the FO cant find a reasonable player with the rite contract . Maybe no one wants to play in Utah . We as fans dont have that luxuary of knowing any of this .
Wouldnt you like to be a fly on the wall so we could hear what was goin on ? I sure would . HeHe .
Popular Science had an article on the dragonfly drone, carrying a camera.
Come on, one of you geeks out there, get on the ball and get one of these babies made, so we can fly it into KOCs office and listen in.
Jazzaholic
Hard to tell what the food will be like in the new Jazz “restaurant”, it is under new management.
I think the days of overpaying players and being seduced into bad contracts is going to be kicked into high gear next year when the luxury tax penalties start being felt.
The Jazz have prepared for this. If they don’t get seduced, they’re on the right track.
Let a player walk, rather than overpay.
Sign FAs for 1 yr and team option for the 2nd year.
Don’t trade for bad contracts.
Try to get players with an up side, rather than players with a big name, who are peaking.
An example is El Cubano, who dismantled a world champion to get his out of control payroll in line, with some flexibility. How he does going forward will be interesting to watch, but he’s not stupid! His team looks like crap now, but he’s in a position to get right back in the mix.
I think the Jazz are already in the mix and poised to make some big advances from the slightly better than average team they have now.
So, don’t condemn yet. Let’s be patient and see where the Jazz are in a year.
Jazzaholic
Get kemba!
I would have liked to be a fly on the wall when Blazers traded basically Wallace for the 6th pick in a deep draft (which will become probably RotY)!! Then id send a transcript to KOC.
Favors rookie year: 20.2 minutes
Favors second year: 21.3 minutes
Favors third year: 22.1 minutes
If the plan is to let Al and Millsap walk, then why is Favors on a rookie contract and with a ton of upside not playing starter minutes?! So even basic trades need to be looked at in terms of “getting” Favors (and Kanter.
JUST AN EXAMPLE:
Kings get Al and the worse of the Jazz 2013 first round pick
Jazz get Jason Thomson, Isaiah Thomas, Garcia, Favors + 15 minutes, and Kanter +17 minutes.
Corbins comments from Clippers game with 17 seconds left in the game…
“Al was going to be the guy we were going to on the offensive end,” Corbin said. “So we were coming back to go inside. You manage your timeouts to the time and space in the game, whether you have enough time to call a timeout to get the guy back in.”
If you don’t have enough time to call a timeout to get your offense back on the floor, what makes you think you have enough time to run a play, better yet a play to Jefferson in the post,,, are you frickin serious Corbin.
#fireCorbinandstaff
@LK Anderson, Bargnani is a terrible player. Are you serious? He’s reknowned for being one of the worst defenders in the league. The Raptors are a better team without him, as is any team in the NBA.
Even the Jazz front office isn’t retarded enough to trade for Bargnani. Teams wont touch him with a 500 foot pole.
What could Bargnani do for our team? HE HAS A $13 MILLION dollar contract.
LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
@ Nick Knows All – thanks for the back-up on that. Bargnani sucks at D. He can drain a three and do some things on offense, but he would not be a good pick-up for the Jazz. I’ll take Big Al over Bargnani any day.
And Al is any better of a defender? haha no one has said he’s a good defender, i’ve only read that he would be a good fit on this team.
i just think that we’re all having flashbacks of how good the offense clicked with Memo spreading the floor by having a good outside shot for a big man. He’d be a better fit with favors and kanter, by spreading the floor and giving them the space they need down low.
@shane you can have Al, i’ll gladly take the trio of bargnani, favors and kanter. haha
Omar, the jazz don’t have 2 open roster spots for a 1 for 3 trade.
“Cousins is crazy talented and from what I can gather, he wants out of Sacramento badly. The Jazz have a ton of different assets to offer. But I can’t imagine any scenario where the Jazz would give up any of those assets for Cousins. They care a lot about both character and chemistry. They aren’t the type of team that will take the risk? Boston? For sure they would. Dallas? They would too. Just not Utah.” ESPN.com
Thats why I put a disclaimer “JUST AN EXAMPLE”…..
I have no idea what Boston is giving up for Cousin, I dont even know Celtics get Cousins; maybe he goes Wiz and plays with Wall, maybe Dallas picks him up; maybe Lakers swing for Cousin. I have no idea.
The point being made is that maybe, in a possible hypothetical future, Kings need a center—-Al is a center. Jazz are not limited to one trade a year so I would assume Raja is gone, maybe Watson, point is Jazz can MAYBE trade Al to Kings IF they possibly trade Cousin somewhere not Utah. Thats it.
All Jazz would have to do is dump Raja cuz Al and Watson and 1st round pick works for a trade of Thomas, Thompson, and Garcia….but thats beside the point I am making which is Jazz should also take into consideration that Favors, Kanter, maybe even Evans gets more PT by trading Al and/or Millsap.
As you point out, lots of things need to happen before that’s even a consideration. Plus, with a triple double and the Kings continuing to deny thoughts of a trade, it doesn’t appear possible anytime soon.
Jazzaholic
Ya, basically Jazz have to prepared to move in once the dominoes start falling. Maybe Bulls try to move Boozer; NY and Amare, thats when Al’s 15M will be desirable. But in the mean time Corbin needs to pump up Kanter and Favors minutes.
Steve Kyler @stevekylerNBA
RT @dalybeastmode: any rumors regarding D. Cousins getting traded? —> Kings say they are not dealing him. Teams that called say price too high
@LK – I could actually see the Bargs trade happening but I really really don’t want him in Utah. He’s another big that plays awful D. He would be like Okur for us, but believe it or not a worse defender and a heavy possession user. We can have one of those on this team unless it’s a true star
@ Jazzaholic-other then myself you’re the only person that I’ve heard pushing the Collison and Sap trade. I think this is one of the few legit trades, where both sides win. I just don’t see Utah getting the value back for Sap so in this case (with some money or draft picks) this is a good move for us. Collision is young (25) and one of the best young defensive PGS in the league
Bargs Memo comparison is accurate. I’m not sure who would be better on defense. Memo was pretty slow.
I’m not pushing Sap-Collison, but I’d like to see something come back from all these expiring contracts. Collison would be good, since the Jazz obviously need a good point guard.
You always have to wonder about Portland for a Millsap trade, since they made a poison pill offer, but the Jazz might have them on their $hit list, because they made a poison pill offer.
Jazzaholic
First let’s see if we agree on what the Jazz need. Yes ther is a logjam at the bigs. Jazz need a better point. When Marvin came to the Jazz I thought he would do a lot better.
I suggested Bargs. He has been the go to man for the Raptors. I don’t think he likes that. I think he would do much better as a backup. Not a real bad salary for a big man. The main thing is I think he goes first in their trade.
Here is my thinking with one or both ideas. AL for Bargs and Calderon. You get what I think is a very good point guard. Relieves pressure at the log jam and play Bargs as the backup.Bell would need to be included in this trade..
Second as Jazzaholic has mentioned Blazers maybe still have the hots for Sap. They are not that thrilled with Leonard. To get Sap a combo of Players Matthews who I still think his heart is in Utah,Leonard, and maybe Babbit.Throw in the GS next years pick to sweetin the pie.Also they do not have a starting center so switch AL for Sap. I think Sap with Mavs would be scarry but he would have to play behind Dirk.
Also somehow do a three or four team deal with the Jazz ending up with Collison or Sac’s Evans. Get rid of for sure Watson, Bell, and either Al or Sap. If Jazz get Matthews let Hayward start and move Marvin to the bench. Lets go with the youth and let them grow. Starters Favors, Kanter,Heyward,Matthews, T. Evans..
Net Daily: “An NBA GM admitted recently that he’s found some interesting trade ideas in blogger comments.”
So, keep up the trade ideas.
Marv really dropped off after he got his brains jangled, but had more life last game.
Bargs will have to play before he goes anywhere. “AL for Bargs and Calderon” would be good for the Jazz, but they have to get rid of Raja first or include him.
Every team would like to dump their garbage and get an All-Star, but you’ve got to look at any trade from the other team’s view. When both teams accomplish goals, it’s a win-win. One team may want to get rid of salary or a duplicated position or rebuild or picks or? So, it’s not just the player and grinding the trade machine. It’s the underlying motives.
Jazzaholic
“I was talking with a general manager the other day who said if he were the Bulls he’d try to move Hamilton because you shouldn’t be paying the luxury tax when you are not seriously competing, which the Bulls cannot be without Rose. But I’m fairly sure the Bulls would not take back a longer contract for Hamilton given they can buy out Hamilton after this season.” NBA.com