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Raja backing out of his buyout
Posted by: Jazzbug on July 31st, 2012
The author's views are entirely his or her own and may not reflect the views of the Utah Jazz.I just read in the SLC Trib that Raja Bell is no longer agreeing to the terms of the buyout. The Trib also noted the reason soley being, that no other teams have approached him with a contract. They also cited that if the Jazz weren’t able to put together an agreeable deal they would just ask him to stay home when training camp starts. Can anyone think of a team/ deal that would allos us to unload some unwanted baggage that refuses to go away?
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The best deal I can think of is to deliver one well placed kick to the behind of Raja Bell to send him out. If he doesn’t want to play hard, fine. If he doesn’t want to make his shots, fine. If he wants to start ragging on the coach and saying there’s no communication, fine. But get the H out of here when we offer money to get rid of you!
I am so annoyed at him turning himself into a cancer. There’s no reason for him to place the blame for his suckiness on the coach.
Probably realized that this might be his last pay check since no one else wants him.
That’s exactly what it is Jazz Man. He saw there was no market for his services and quickly did an about-face on the buyout. I understand he’s got to do what’s best for him and his family, but I think he’s turned into a joke.
Apparently his agent couldn’t get him the Miami gig, or probably any other gig for that matter.
What a freakin loser.
I think we can expect him to be amnestied any day now. The Jazz don’t want to be stuck with this boil on their forehead.
I disagree with an amnesty. If we end up stuck with him, let’s just assign him to the D-League. Make him work for his last payday. This way we don’t have to see Raja, and he gets a year to think long and hard about his attitude in Reno.
Amnesty window has passed, so the Jazz can no longer amnesty him.
If we try to make him play, he’ll just come up with some bullship injury, and travel the country getting 50 second opinions, like last year.
Even if we did have the ability to amnesty Bell I wouldn’t. For the amount of money he is making, a buyout is our best option. The kicker is making him agree to the terms.
hahahahahahahahaha, wait, Raja Bell actually thought another team wanted him???
I agree with someguy… I think you make it a point as a team to deal with him has harsh ly as possible to send out a message. I think you keep him in contract and send him to the d-league and hope something comes by that we can use to trade him in the year for a team trying to clear cap space for next year… sending us something of value since we know Raja is a complete scum bag-madonna-baby. He’s whined as much as most superstars while sitting on the bench or being injured. I think they came up with the word idiot for people just like him. Sorry to use name calling but I really don’t like what he’s done. The funnies comment he made was saying Corbin was unprofessional…lol WOW is that calling the kettle black, or what? Hmmm, I wish I could get paid 3.5 mill to sit on the bench in a season that you don’t even have practices from the lockout! Talk about the easiest paycheck EVER! Yeah lets complain about that Raja, typical American attitude that is being cought like a virus, entitelment without work ethic or accountability, then blame everyone else. I love it!
You can’t send him to the D-league. It’s for freshman and sophomore players. Not an over-the-hill, ancient and grumpy old man who thinks he’s better than he is.
@Andrew Apparently you have no clue what the NBDL is, since that’s not even close to accurate.
Regardless, to everyone, this isn’t like MLB where a player can be designated for assignment to an affiliated minor league team. It’s much more work to DFA a player that’s signed on a guaranteed NBA contract, and I think Bell and the players union can fight that successfully if the Jazz attempt it.
@Chris Apparently YOU have no clue, given that until last season, the D-League wouldn’t allow players beyond their fourth year in the NBA be assigned, and even now that that rule has been removed, the veteran player has to consent to assignment. And given that Raja Bell would sooner join the WNBA than consent to go to the D-League, my statement is nothing of not completely accurate.
Bell is showing his true colors. He agreed to a buy out and now does not accept it. Can the Jazz just waive him. (I do not think that is the correct spelling for the correct word.) Well, if that can not happen could the Jazz look to trade him since he does have an expiring contract?
You would have to have a willing trade partner. No team even seems willing to give him a veterans minimum deal.
You had the right word, silverwolf.
Andrew, maybe your original wording should have been clearer. Players who are nothing close to “Freshman and Sophomore” have always been allowed in the NBDL. The number of years they’ve played professionally has nothing to do with their ability to play in NBDL, so third and fourth year d-leaguers were fine. It’s only the amount of -NBA- experience that in the past was among NBDL requirements.
I think that in order for us to put something together to get rid of Raja through a trade the Magic have to give a concrete answer as to what they are doing with Howard. Once he is either traded or told he is staying with the Magic until the trade deadline no one is going to be willing to facilitate a combo trade with Bell and one of our bigs.
All I know is that I’ve been saying from the start how “Terribell” this signing was, and it took a lot of people defending him before everyone realized how truly awful a player Raja is. It’s not like he was passable as an NBA player during any of his time with the Jazz. Notice I also suggested the big line-up all the way back in March 2011 when I posted my first blog post complaining about how miserable Raja is at playing hoops. It was easy to see from the start that things weren’t going to end Bell between us and him.
http://www.utahjazz360.com/shyft4/terribell/
I think we should do whatever possible to send him to the hornets or bobcats. It would make him miserable. I would take on extra salary to make that happen.
Im not surprised at all he did the same thing to the bobcats. There he faked an injury til the season was over so he would be part of the team as well.
How hard is it to work out a buy out?! Once it took too long Jazz should have realized that Bell was just stalling. The Jazz are too nice. I can only see Bell moving in a mega trade to make numbers work, so we would have to be the 3rd team. Maybe in the Howard trade we get Richardson 5.5M for Bell and Watson expiring.
@Chris You are the only one on here that blamed the right person. KOC is the person to blame for this whether you want to believe it or not. Raja does not have to accept a buyout. He was signed to a HORRIBLE contract and should never have been signed for that long.
I do not like Raja and do want him gone but why do we not blame the people that created this problem? How do we know what he was upset about? Maybe Bell questioned why we ran the same play to the same person over and over and over and over. Maybe he said we have talent sitting on the bench why do we not use it? We forget this argument came after we got blown out on the road.
When one person is stating something you might need to think and question is going on but when two people have the same thing to say about Corbin it becomes more and more likely to be true.
The two people that should be cornering the most of the blame in this situation are KOC for the contract, and Corbin for not being able to connect with his players and running a functional team.
CJ Miles to the Lakers??????? Kobe gets nuts, God bless him
I think we will be luck to even get a 7th round pick for Raja So if we cant cut him or trade him then Ty Corbin should tell Raja your wecome to suit up for games but you are our 15th man and will never play
Wooow. Raja WTF man. WTF. Nice career. Now GTFO of Utah.
WOW. Simply unbelievable. “Not agreeing to the terms of the buyout?” Are you serious?
Guy DEMANDED to get out of Utah and is now throwing a hissy fit. What a b*tch.
This is a token example of a hasbeen trying to scrape up as much money as possible on his way out the door.
And leave it to freaking Dallan to bring up Al Jefferson in this discussion. God what a broken record. This situation has nothing to do with Jefferson, Dallan. Shut up.
You know that for a fact Nick? You know that players were not upset about that? Because there were reports at the end of the year that there were some frustrated players! Not just Raja and CJ. How about when Hayward’s dad was tweeting out how the Jazz were not using his son right? You think that was just coming from him? You do not think Gordon had said anything at all and that is why his Dad said something?
What was he upset about? No one ever knew we just ASSUMED that it was playing time but why would he go to alf the teams that he was saying he was going to if he cared about playing time. Whether you want to admit it or not that is a completely legitimate reason for him to be upset and that could be why he was upset.
Everyone is assuming that Raja is the bad guy cause this is what the Jazz organization has said. Well guess what? Ty said the best players would play did that happen? Nope! All year we heard things and people have brought these up and how he can not really connect with the players
Dallan, this had NOTHING to do with Communication. Corbin played Bell about 300 minutes more than he should have last season due to Bell’s complete uselessness. Bell should be SO grateful because no other team even wants him as their 10th man, or else he would have signed with them. He got a starting job here that he wouldn’t deserve on any other team in the league. He blew his chance and it is not Corbin’s fault. Bell should have told the Jazz what was going on with his fake injury long before he actually did, and since they hadn’t heard from him and weren’t sure if they were going to, they had to adjust the gameplan so it no longer included him. He got what he asked for and now he whines about it.
As far as blaming KOC, yes. Obviously it ultimately is his fault for offering such a ridiculous contract. But at the same time, it’s not KOC’s fault that Raja turned into a freaking moron. Yeah, KOC enabled him by giving him the contract, but that doesn’t mean Raja can act like a jack a– because of it. People need to take the heat when they act like morons and Raja is being a moron here. I see your point about KOC but I don’t see any of our other players acting like this. It’s not like Raja told KOC that after 1-2 seasons he would do this.
@Dallan, Nick: Do you two like anyone???
There is a reason no other players are acting like this.
1) They are to young to get up and say something about the coach. (Hayward,Favors,Kanter,Burks,Evans)
2) They are the player or players that are thriving from his ways. (Al, Watson)
3) They are just hoping for a second chance in the league. (Howard, Tinsley, Carrol)
The only one that leaves is Paul and we all know he is not going to just step up and say something like that. CJ and Bell both fit into his ways early in the season then they were kinda kicked to the curb. Bell and CJ both said they never really felt like Corbin was communicating with them to know what is going on.
Corbin tells people what they want to hear. So you think he is just going to tell Bell that Burks is better and so he is playing? NO!! Bell whined he played. Watson whined he played. The only thing that kept them off the court was injuries. Bell came back yes but when he played in the Portland game he was a no show so he did not play. But look at Howard he did nothing all year gets injured and just replaces Carrol even though Carrol was part of the model leading us to wins at the end of the year.
Corbin is at fault for playing him to much and then just throwing him on the bench and not telling him what was going on. But once again we do not know why they even got in a fight. We all assume that it is playing time but we have NO IDEA
Even if Raja is a dirtbag, like a broken clock right twice a day, Raja is right about Corbin. You can not honestly say Corbin manages the Jazz properly?!! Injuries were rhe best thing that happened to the Jazz: Howard, CJ, Watson, Bell.
Where it looks like Corbin was giving mix signals, was the fact that players didnt loses their starting spot because of injury, even if they were horrible and their back ups out played them. When Howard got hurt off and on again, hed be back in the starting line up when he was not injured–most costly in the play offs. When CJ and Watson got hurt Jazz went a winning streak, then Corbin inserted CJ in starting line up against Hawks and Jazz lose. The next game against Nets, he reinsert Watson, who played like garbage and Jazz barely beat the sorry Nets. Then on the same road trip, against Philly, Bell is healthy and Corbin doesnt reinsert Raja into the starting line up, so its seems personal cuz he reinserted CJ and Watson, despite them being sorry.
It does look personal cuz CJ and Watson are not good, the team was winning without them, YET Corbin still put them in the starting line up?! And he didnt do the same for Bell.
So a lot of blame should fall on Corbin. Had he just communicated to the whole team, if you suck and your backups are playing better and we are winning, heathy or not healthy, the players playing the best are gonna keep playing. Corbin contradicted himself by how he handled CJ, Watson, and Howard, as opposed to Bell.
*put CJ in the starting line up and Watson in the rotating.
Corbin is a bad coach in a lot of ways, and he makes STUPID playing time decisions.
But that doesn’t mean Raja has to be a cancer in the locker room and not take his stupid buyout and disappear. If Raja is so upset about it, he should be grateful for the chance to get out. Instead he jews the team by sticking around. Maybe Corbin would have been better with Raja if he hadn’t sucked so hard all year. Corbin didn’t make Raja miss those shots! There is a lot of things we can blame on Corbin, but Raja’s bad attitude isn’t one of them. Neither is his ridiculous decision to not accept the buyout.
Raja Bell is doing what’s right for Raja Bell. He pursued his options outside of the Jazz, and found nothing waiting, so he’s taking advantage of the retarded contract we gave him. And it’s not like we’ve built up any good will with the guy with how he was handled in the organization after he was hired, so there’s no reason for there to be some bend on his part. The root of the issue is still the extremely poor choice by KOC to sign Bell. The guy was a broken shell of a player when he joined the Jazz, and there wasn’t any reason to think he’d be worth the value of the contract. Usually O’Connor makes fairly shrewd moves, but his blunder in this case is what’s put us in the situation of having this festering cancer on our team.
Im not saying Raja isnt a dirtbag, but guaranteed money is guaranteed money. Jazz should have given him a deadline on the last day to amnesty, Jazz are the fools for getting played.
Chris is right, KOC poor decision to sign Raja to 3 years 10-11M, Corbin for reinforcing vetern entitlement by never benching sorry vets like CJ, Watson, Howard, and Bell, and giving them a guaranteed spot in the rotation regardless of playing quality, and again KOC for taking Bell ’s word on an agreed buyout. If Bell had trouble finding a team, should have know he wouldnt find out. Didnt give Bell a deadline, that KOCs goof, and now the Jazzs problem.
Exactly Chris!!
Toxic Raja’s agent negotiated the buyout, in lieu of amnesty. Toxic Raja publicly announced it was a done deal.
Ty and Toxic Raja had a blowup for unknown reasons.
Toxic Raja burned his bridges with the coaching staff and management at locker cleanout.
Once the Jazz could not use the amnesty, Toxic Raja backs out of his agreed, negotiated deal.
There is one of the Jazz sponsors who deal with toxic waste. Has anyone thought about calling Energy Solutions?
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