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Posted by: Shane on March 11th, 2013
The author's views are entirely his or her own and may not reflect the views of the Utah Jazz.I know everyone is ready to fire Corbin, slaughter individual players for recent performances, and question the front office, but I think we need to be a little patient during this transition year. Some say we’ve been patient long enough….I get that. But we’ve got great players to build around for the future. There is a reason that the FO has signed everyone to expiring contracts this year. This is a transition year, with a bunch of expiring contracts providing a stop-gap until we fully turn the reins over to Hayward, Burks, Kanter, and Favors, who really are the players of the future. I would fully expect to see at least 3 of the 4 of them starting next year. I believe Kanter is an all star some day. I think Hayward will be there too. We need a PG and some veterans off the bench. And we need these players to get some time playing together. By time, I don’t mean a month or two…..but multiple years of playing and leading the show for the Jazz organization. That’s how championship franchises are built. Even the dream team of the Heat needed two full seasons together before winning a championship. And the longevity of the Spurs can’t be overstated.
Jazz FO has a big summer coming up. Who they get at PG is HUGE! I don’t know if they’ll do it through the draft, FA, trade, or a combination, but the decision they make at this position is a very big one. It would be nice to have someone long term that can grow with the rest of the team for the future.
Next year is when the clock really starts ticking. Things are going to start happening and the Jazz will hopefully be on a path to improve year after year.
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Yeah, Shane, when people think about the Jazz rationally your comments are valid.
However, a whole of fans are anything but rational thinkers. Emotion drives them, not logic. They try hard to make their emotional case sound rational, but they just yell when other people show them data that doesn’t support their view.
Those are the fans that throw negative votes if a post or its comments have anything in it they don’t like. They post their rant in one form or another as a comment to every post, even if their rant isn’t part of the discussion.
So Shane, half the board will agree with you. And a few will hurl fireballs.
Kind of like a glass both half empty and half full..
@Lucky: good post – thanks. I knew it wouldn’t be a popular post with everyone. I get frustrated too when I see questionable coaching moves, losses piling up, etc. Just hope that most of us can keep the big picture in mind.
Wow another patience comment! Im frustrated with complacency! How much patience should we have? Maybe when Kanter, Favors, and Hayward are all gone? When is this “Transition Period” going to end? Cause last time I checked the front office has been adamant about not saying we are rebuilding or transitioning! We still have are fantastic vets who going to take us to the promise land !! Right? Corbin may not be the only issue with the Jazz, but he is definitely part of the problem. If in a couple years from now the Jazz are still in the same mediocre state will you eat your words? Or will you still be preaching patience… with a .500- 8th seed Jazz team?
Derek,
What part of rebuilding don’t you understand?
The Jazz are in the process of rebuilding the team to try to climb the ladder again in the playoffs.
The FO is also trying to rebuild without the frustration and embarrassment experienced by the fans of an Orlando, a Charlotte, a Washington, a New Orleans or a Sacramento.
And so far it’s working. Everybody in the Jazz organization gets it except for a few fans who think their knowledge of basketball supersedes everyone in the FO.
No one is complacent. Based on what I see, I think it’s going to take 4 to 5 more seasons before the Jazz can make a strong playoff run. If they aren’t doing it by then, I’m fine with cleaning out the FO. All of them.
“rebuilding:?! WTF! hahaha!
Kanter—stud
Favors—stud
Hayward—stud
Burks—stud
DC—really good
Evans—really improving looks good
We already have the pieces, just play them! They are already better than the jazz starters. Every game bench either comes from behind or takes a sizable lead! Just about every game. The future is already on the Jazz bench. The past is already on the court?! Change it Corbin!
Omar, you the oracle!
You got it going on. Pass it around!
agree with the post.
Lol Lucky! I wont take credit though, a ton of people have be advocating this for a while.
Some fire Corbin bandwagoners just frustrate me, I mean don’t you see the big picture? really? You can’t have instant gratification in the NBA get it? Unless you’re a big team market and buy yourself up to winning a championship.
Get the big picture, there’s a thing in basketball called chemistry. The FO ain’t stupid, they know Favors and Kanter eventually will take over. Big Al knows this too and is serving well, teaching the big guys lots of things (offense-wise). Kanter is already showing a lot of improvement and so are other young players in the team. This season it is what it is so keep your frustration in the closets because it’s next year when the whole picture is going to change and stop being such winers will ya?
Thank you.
Particularly goes to Omar and ‘the guy that knows all’. Have you thought of running for NBA co-commissioners? The gameplay is just too little for your greatly developed basketball minds.
@Jamezz
U mad bro?
@Jamezz keep your frustration about being frustrated that we are frustrated in the closet!!! Jk, lol. Feel feel to express yourself. Spurs are 1; OKC are 2; Grizzlies are 4; Nuggets are 5—-you can be a successful team in a small market, the best way to do it is by developing your own players….on rookie contracts. That way you have young talented players playing well and getting rookie salary allowing teams to use the rest of the salary to spend on high quality players—NOT overpaid mediocre to scrub level vets. Jazz screwed up royally there.
OKC only last year had to decide to pay 2 of its core guys, and they already had been developed as players and into a championship team.
Jazz on the otherhand are going to wait til those rookie contracts are expired until they turn the team over to them, but then on their new contacts the majority of the cap is going to be spent on them, limiting who can be signed. Jazz had Hayward and Favors for 3 years making rookie salary and two years with Burks and Kanter, had they turned it over sooner, paid players that actually deserve CP3 money, Jazz would already be a top 4 team in league.
Right now Kanter, Favors, Hayward, Burks, Evans, and DC are worth a grand total of…..wait for it……16.5M!!! That’s it! 4 of the top 6 players are worth 14M!!! The cap is 58M. 4 of the best players make up about 25% of thr salary! 4 starter caliber players are making 14M combined…..Al makes 15M?! About…
C4: 25%
Sap & Mo: 25%
Al: 25%
Rest of roster: 25%
Jamezz I think where people are getting frustrated is that we could be in roughly the same spot while playing the young guys more minutes. Right now they are in the eight spot with one of the most difficult schedules remaining. I honestly don’t think they make the playoffs with how the team is playing. So if we are out of the playoffs, with our vets playing the majority of the minutes, would it be so bad if we played our young guys and moved up in the draft a little? I don’t expect them to be a top team this or next year. But I would like to see them develop the young players by giving them MINUTES. We’ve seen the progress Burks, Kanter, and Favors have made the last month, when actually given a chance to play. I understand that if we don’t sign AJ of PM back next year, we might not be very good. But at least we would get to see what Favors and Kanter can do. After watching this last road trip I can see Favors as a more talented Larry Sanders, and Kanter can be a stronger version of Greg Monroe. Not too bad.
Don’t forget how well Evans has responded with more minutes..
Like I’ve said, I can only assume that the playoff revenue for two playoff games is WAY more important to the front office than we think, given the decisions I’ve seen. Because the smart BASKETBALL moves would have been to trade Al at last season’s trade deadline. Ty’s probably not winning a lot more games either way, but he’s the wrong coach for a team full of young guys for sure with his weird veteran bias, so extending Ty is another strange FO move, especially before evaluating him for at least one full regular season. Count me dumbfounded.
With the playoff picture narrowing down I think it is easy to see the pros and cons of our FO this year. Scouting is pretty good, I dont doubt our ability to do well with draft picks. Assets= our management is seriously overconfident settling with quality players like Millsap turning down our offer AND getting nothing in return. Also overconfident with Ty. Ty is still making basic coaching errors with defensive sets, off ball screens, and his momentum timeouts or lack of are rediculous.