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Post-Truth Jazz Basketball??!!
Posted by: Omar on March 5th, 2013
The author's views are entirely his or her own and may not reflect the views of the Utah Jazz.I use to turn to Jazz basketball to get away from politics, but apparently, Jazz basketball as become hyper-political; it use to be based on basketball skill, now it is based personal interest, nepotism, misappropriation of minutes. It is pretty sad to be a Jazz fan right now.
Anyway, back to basketball. First off, I have been on the #FireCorbin bandwagon for about a LONG time; which means, that our #FireCorbin sentiment is not ONLY based on last nights game, but is based on the entirety of the last two years. Remember these names….
Josh Howard: 43 games played (out of 66); 23.0 minutes per game
CJ Miles: 56 games played; 20.4 minutes per game
Raja Bell: 34 games played; 23.4 minutes per game
Earl Watson: 50 games played (2011-12); 20.7 minutes per game (2.0 points per game)
That right that should have gotten Corbin fired LAST year. But the excuse then was, “the young guys just are not ready” and blah, blah, blah.
Fast Forward to last nights game, which is a microcosm of a macro-problem that is the Jazz organization as whole, to include but limited to KOC, Corbin, and the Jazz media that refuses to undermine or even question the seemingly directionless Jazz organization.
First point:
Do not create a false dichotomy. In other words, do not make a false “one or the other.” At the beginning of the year, the FD, was, “well sorry Burks gets DNPed, but Carroll is playing so well; you cannot take minutes away from Carroll;” and later it was, “well sorry Carroll gets DNPed, but Burks is playing so well,” etc. Nevermind the fact that Watson and Tinsley were getting 40+ minutes, and Marvin is starting a playing pretty awful, nevermind any of that, cuz Burks and Carroll cannot be on the court at the same time—false dichotomy.
So the new FD I am hearing and reading is, “well you all want minutes for Kanter, now he gets them, and you are pissed cuz Favors didn’t get back into the game last night!! Kanter was playing too well to get pulled!” Again, this is a false dichotomy. I know I for one, wanted the Jazz to pull out the undersized PF Millsap to combat length with length in Favors. Kanter and Favors play well together, so it is not one or the other. Sorry to dismantle this false premise, but it is just absurd to think otherwise.
Which brings to my 2nd point:
How exactly is Carroll missing a free throw indicative of him not being suited mentally to being in the game late??? Cuz last I checked, Sap, our vet, missed a crucial free throw as well; so what is his problem?? Sap missed 3 free throws in the 4th—one of which would have iced the game; so no, Carroll missing a free throw was not the deathblow to the Jazz.
Which brings me to my 3rd points:
“How possibly could Corbin pull Sap out of the game…..oh the humanity!!!”
First off, Jazz were down 10 to start the 4th quarter (65-75). From that point to the point were the Jazz tied the game at 86-86 with 4:39 left in the game, Sap went 0-2 from the field, had one turnover, and went 2-4 from the free throw line (50%). So my question is, why exactly couldn’t he be pulled within this time??? Yes Jazz outscored the Bucks 21-11 up to that point….but do you want to know how they did that…..do you really want to know…..
Burks: 8 points
Hayward: 5 points
Kanter: 4 points
17 of the 21 points were 3 of the C4, and running the offense through them…..NOT MILLSAP!!!! So why exactly couldn’t Favors be subbed in??? Cuz the offense wasn’t leaning on Sap who at this point at 4:39 had ZERO FGs? So why wouldn’t we put length and interior D in the game, and keep running the offense through the players that brought the Jazz back from 10 points down? Jazz outscored Bucks 21-11 with no Al, and with little Sap. So again I asked why couldn’t Corbin sub out Sap for Favors at this point or any point up to then??? Exactly, why???
So until someone explains to me why Corbin gave CJ, Howard, Bell, Watson 86 minutes per game last year, until someone can explain to me why Corbin gives and continues to give Watson 20+ minutes, Foye 27 minutes, Marvin 25 minutes, and even Al 33 minutes per game—ALL when players with less minutes like the C4, Carroll, even Evans, are being more productive?? How exactly does that work??? So ya, until I get a legit explanations as to why Corbin gave those players from last year significant and consistent minutes all last year (two players of which are not even in the NBA, and the other on the bench for one of the worse NBA teams) and Watson who is absolutely unproductive, unless turnovers are a good thing this year, and until someone tells me how Al is better than Kanter and Sap better than Favors now and into the future? I will not be convinced.
And last year the Jazz were fighting for the 8th spot, this year, Jazz are fighting for the 8th spot:
A) how is this progress?
B) how are Corbin and the Jazz “over-achiving” this year
So YES, a million times over YES #FIRECORBIN!!!!!!!!
FYI: I used used zero curse words and looked at more than last nights game; oh ya, and in the last OT game Jazz played against Boston, Jazz were down 8 points to start the 4th (80-72), the C4 and JYD bring Jazz back to an 85-85 tie with 7:11 left, and Corbin subbed Sap for Kanter, then at 92-91, Corbin subbed Al for Favors. So yes it is possible to make subs when Jazz, or should I say CORE FOUR make a comeback and have momentum. But last night, all of a sudden we want to applaud Corbin for not doing his obvious pre-determined substitutions!! LOL!!! This is not about “changing it up” for Corbin, it it the same pattern, VETS OVERRIDE THE YOUTH! Always and forever.
Jazz FO, and the 4th Estate are building a pretty sturdy totalitarian regime, but I will continue to be a Jazz fan—BUT ON MY TERMS….which are to look at facts and present the truth—however disruptive it is to the false and fabricated narrative being perpetuated and the supplemental Kool-Aid being drunk….I will have none of that.
P.S #FIRECORBIN #FIREKOC #BRINGBACKTRUTH
With love (and hate),
Jazz fan Omar
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The #FIRECORBIN movement is catching on. I just saw “Around the Horn” (a tv show on espn) Call out Ty Corbin for questionable coaching. This is huge. Now he is under pressure from national media.
Awesome post Omar—Thanks!
As a lifeline Jazz fan, I still think we have to face a sad truth concerning Ty….
If the Jazz make the playoffs, he’ll be back next season.
If the Jazz fail to qualify for the playoffs, it’s still 50/50 that he’ll return. For a team that is, or at least claims to be struggling to turn a profit, buying out a coach’s contract is a bitter pill to swallow.
A standing ovation for Omar!
Marty, I think you’re right about that. If we make the playoffs, Greg Miller and the Jazz FO will consider it a mission accomplished. They get their playoff revenue, and thus it’s a successful season and they’re content.
But not making the playoffs hurts this franchise financially. The Jazz can’t afford to miss out on playoff revenue too often, so if we don’t make it this year, it would at least give the FO a reason to consider looking for a new coach.
And that would be a step in the right direction.
Thanks a lot guys! That game really upset me, and then to add insult to it by pretending its an apparition, or “just one game,” or Corbin making a decision outside of a context is absurd.
If the Jazz was U.S. political entity, they would be in a ton of trouble for cronyism!!! Promoting people based on person affinities and not on merit over the last 2 years. No transparency, its just, “in KOC we trust” or “believe in KOC”—in other words dont question anything and just fall in line……screw that!
When Mo and Al come back, lets see how many minutes the young guys get….
As far as ATH, just saw it. That should tell you something when Plaschke—a Laker dude—advocates that the Jazz play Sap, since Sap is the Jazz’s “best player”….he hopes Jazz keep playing the vets so Lakers get the 8th spot. Torre called out Corbin’s main man Watson. How is it Jazz media doesnt see this?! WTF?!
Ha yeah and he also said Kanter and Favors are the two best players on the team.
This is literally exactly how I feel, and I think alot of Jazz fans agree! Great post.
I don’t even think its a matter of the young guys getting playing time, just to develop them. I honestly think they are an upgrade right now. Certainly defensively!
Thanks Derek C. Jazz still havent allowed 100 points in regulation when Al has DNPs. You are right about that! And even scoring-wise, Kanter and Favors 20/20 potential when they get starting 30+ minutes. So even that excuse of no offense is losing its legs.