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Could our Jazz be tanking?!
Posted by: Nick on March 15th, 2013
The author's views are entirely his or her own and may not reflect the views of the Utah Jazz.Could the Jazz possibly be tanking to ensure that they will be in a position to draft Michael Carter Williams. Or maybe increasing their trade chips to make a draft day sign and trade for Marcus smart?
….I hope so.
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Well whatever they’re doing it sure isn’t playing basketball… They better start trying and winning, or keep losing like they are. Barely missing the playoffs would be harder for me to take than not making it by a long shot.
I pray the Jazz tank! We have multiple games against teams such as Minnesota and Dallas that could propel them up in the standings while pushing them down. If the Jazz play like they have been, I see us getting a 41-41 season. I think we can do better (by that I mean worse). If the Jazz tanked and could get in the Top 10, I say our first priorities is to get high enough picks to draft guys whose stock will assuredly rise (Trey Burke, Alex Len or Nerlens Noel or Cody Zeller).
No honorable team would tank. Remember in the Olympics when the chineese ping pong team tried it. They were thrown out. Remember TANK is a four letter word..I would hope the team would try their best. That being said they have the hardest schedule and probably will finish out of the playoffs anyway..
Should have traded Al for an unprotected 1st last year or last draft, then we would have had a horse in the tanking race probably. Jazz could have set up three 1st round picks to possibly package and move up to get #1 rated PG Smart. Shoulda, coulda, woulda….
Agree with LK. Tanking is not an option, that’s not what sports is about. I have zero respect for Mark Jackson after the crap GS pulled last year. Say what you will about Corbin, but I never want him or the Jazz organization to be considered ‘tankers’.
I say screw the veterans, they seem checked out. They aren’t going to be here next year, they’re playing like crap, and I think Tyrone Corbin has lost them.
Play the young guys and let the chips fall where they may.
Tanking is a disgrace. On the other hand, I would be okay with only playing the young guys so they can develop. If we lose, there’s a reason for the madness. If we win, the young guys are developing how we want. There’s no downside to that plan in my opinion.
That came through better Kevin, I’m glad you agree that tanking is disgraceful. Corbin is going to try making it to the playoffs the way we know, not making many changes in the starting lineup or rotations.
Now if the playoffs get out of reach (David Locke thinks that suddenly not playing the vets would be disrespectful to all their year’s work) I’m totally for ’starting next season’ and giving major minutes to who the FO wants to build this team around, which obviously isn’t who Corbin has been starting this year.
In any event, if we don’t make the playoffs you still want to make the best out of any situation and draft wisely.
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I can’t hardly stand David Locke anymore. I do not care at all if someone feels “disrespected” when they don’t play. We need to play the guys who will help us in the future. If Al and Millsap want respect, then they need to dominate the way they are capable of doing. Personally, I think Al is being disrespectful to the fans by his lack of effort on defense.
Couldnt have said it better myself Kevin. If you dont do your job, especially considering how much your getting paid to do it, then youre gonna lose it. If the veterans cant even get you an 8th seed they dont deserve respect. Play the young guys because what do you have to lose at this point? In my opinion the Jazz would probably win more with them getting the bulk of the minutes, but even if they don’t you still win.
Who cares if David Locke thinks its disrespectful to the vets. The NBA in the end is a business. The Jazz are a business. The goal of a business is to do great and earn money. Sitting your vets because they stink maybe in the business best interests, maybe even future interests if it allows the growth of the core 4.
Stop Corbins madness and make what I think is a good business decision. Core 4 and the Junk Yard Dog.
Well, said @Matt!!!
Do Al and Sap collect a pay-check per game???? Al gets paid regardless if he challenges at the rim (lol), does his usual slap-down move, or flat out turns his back im the paint to KD (that was pathetic)….he still gets paid, but on top of that—we are suppose to cater to his emotions?! WTF is goina on?! Als gettin paid 15M whether on bench or on court—screw their feelings….if anything fans should get paid for being psychologically exposed to Al’s D for 2 years. Im traumatized.
I bet Jazz makr the playoff with the youth movement!
It would be interesting to see a team pay by production, more points, assists, blocks, rebounds, the more money. The more Turn overs, less money. Higher percent of shooting, higher Free Throw shooting, more money. Game winning buzzer beaters = bonus money. Technical fouls, flagrant fouls, less money. If you let your guy blast past you or force Favors for example to get a foul from your ineficency, less money. If you defend and keep who you are guarding at a low shot rate, more money.
Performance based pay.
It would never happen, but it would be interesting to see what would change if we found a bizarro world with String theory to catch this in effect.
Corbin tanking? Your giving him to much credit! He probably thinks tanking would actually be playing the young guys heavily. Ironically this would be the best option to actually making the playoffs! So his idea of tanking would actually be us 99% rational way of winning!
Damn!! Last two comments blew my mind!!
@Matt, string theory is so far-out its trippy; that would be awesome to observe. Earth 2 NBA.
@Derek Weitzel, reading your comments right after Matt made me think of All Star Superman! Maybe we should use reverse psychology like you said, lol, to get Corbin to “tank” (wink, wink).
I imagine Bizarro Corbin is in the running for Coach of the Year in the Underverse…. too bad we have this universe Corbin…
David Locke is employed to defend management to angry fans
That’s why he constantly defends all the crappy decisions. As its looking today the Jazz may have 2 lottery picks this season.
@disco, that would be nice gosh dang it. We need to scrap all the vets (Millsap, Jefferson, Tinsley, Watson, Williams, Foye, Williams, etc.) and invest in our young guys. They will go somewhere else unless they get playing time and we show them they are our franchise. Invest in the draft!!! We need to pick up Trey Burke and a big guy (Nerlens Noel, ALex Len, or Cody Zeller). Then let’s grab Kyle Korver and a SF such as Dorrell Wright or Trevor Ariza. I would love this lineup:
PG: Trey Burke, Alec Burks
SG: Gordon Hayward, Kyle Korver, Kevin Murphy
SF: Trevor Ariza, DeMarre Carroll
PF: Derrick Favors, Jeremy Evans
C: Enes Kanter, (Alex Len or Nerlens Noel)
Yes, we would struggle for a while, there’s no doubt. I think the first season with these guys would be a season like the Minnesota T-Wolves or the Cleveland Cavaliers. But man, it would be exciting to see these guys grow that first season, then see them start to take over games the next season! I love the look of the starting lineup and the second unit looks strong as well, led by energy but then we have some shooting and paint play.
Man, I would love to just scrap everything we got and just invest in the future, something we can get a solid return on guys that are young!!! Plus, we’d save TONS of money to resign some of these young guys the following year…
Whoa, that’s a terrible plan. Instead, lets sign 7-8 middling veterans and pay them huge money on one year deals. You have to give Corbin someone to actually play, right? His head would explode if he only had young guys to play. And we HAVE to support the coach. That’s Jazz management 101.