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2 Questions for Everybody
Posted by: Nick Knows All on June 25th, 2012
The author's views are entirely his or her own and may not reflect the views of the Utah Jazz.…with apologies in advance for the length. I’m Trying to mix up the talk a little bit, here. The trading thing gets boring after a while. And let’s face it, none of us has any idea what Kevin O’Connor is going to do!
So, I thought we could have a discussion about minutes for our young players. Let’s just forget about Millsap, Jefferson, and Harris for the time being, and just think about our rookies and sophomores. Let’s also assume that Favors and Hayward will be starting, and getting anywhere from 30-40 minutes each. Again, don’t think too much about the veterans.
I’m talking about Alec Burkes, Enes Kanter, Demarre Carrol, and also Jeremy Evans. This is also assuming the Jazz picks up Carroll’s option (there are way more reasons to pick it up than not).
1. How many minutes should Burkes and Kanter get? Minimum-maximum?
2. How many minutes should Carroll and Evans get? Min-max?
It’s important to remember that the more minutes we get for these guys, the faster they’ll mature and become better basketball players. Now, we still want to be competitive, so how many minutes can we give them and still remain competitive?
All four players have the potential to be very solid role players at least. They have all showed glimpses of awesomeness.
1. Burkes/Kanter
I’d like to see at minimum 15 minutes for Burkes, and 12 minutes for Kanter each game. Anything less than that is unacceptable. Ideally, I’d like to see them both play 20 minutes a game, but no less than a full quarter of court time for each player.
If Burkes develops a better shot, and more consistent free throw shooting (he was one of the best ft shooter in the NCAA, so I don’t see any reason why this wouldn’t happen. Plus, the guy’s working with Hornacek.)
Kanter has outstanding, above average footwork for a big man, and just needs to work on his explosiveness. With that body, Kanter will be able to plow through defenses and shoot over their heads. But he’s also extremely young, so is a bit unpredictable. Court time and good athletic training will turn him into a beast.
2. Carroll/Evans
I’d like to see Carroll and Evans both get around 10 minutes per game. Ideally, Carrol should get 15 minutes a game. Carroll’s defense is good enough that he should be getting 12 minutes a game. I see him as a defensive specialist, who is also incredibly fast and explosive. Kind of like a poor mans Kawhi Leonard mixed with Kenneth faried and a dash of Thabo Sefolosha.
Jeremy Evans deserves a minimum of 8 minutes on the court. Again, I think Evans would ideally get 10-12 minutes. He’s already a decent shot blocker, so if he could develop any other kind of defense he should get more time on the floor. I don’t think think there’s any Jazz fan who doubts the offensive power of Jeremy Evans.
I could see Evans getting starters minutes on some of the lower tier teams in the NBA. And, if we aren’t willing to give the kid at the very, very least 8 minutes a game, we need to let him go.
So, what say you Jazz Nation?
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Maybe Im just mean spirited, but Why let Evans go if he doesnt get enough minutes? If he’s starter material for other teams… and for how cheap he is… he’s better on a Jazz bench than another team’s starting 5…
Sorry but I am going to talk about the veterans for a little. In order to get those minutes for the young players they need to get rid of Jefferson. Then they can have a three man rotation with Evans getting some minutes Millsap 30 PF Favors 10 PF 20 C Kanter 25 C Evans 5 PF. Hayward 20 SF 15 SG Burks 25 SG 5 PG Caroll 5 SG 15 SF Jeremy Evans 10 SF. IN the end this is how the minutes add up
Favors 30
Millsap 30
Kanter 25
Hayward 35
Burks 30
Caroll 20
Evans 15
Lets remember that Kanters best game was against the Lakers, in LA, against the 1st or 2nd best Center according to most Bynum. All had a DNP by the way.
23 minutes; 6/7 FG; 5/7 FT; 8 rebounds; 1 assist; 17 points.
No Al and Jazz scored 103.
Favors had foul trouble, so Corbin had to go to Kanter and he produce.
C: Kanter 30 minutes, Favors 18,
PF:Millsap 30 minutes, Favors 12, Evans 6
SF: Carroll 23, Haward 7, Player X 18 (flip Carroll w MKG if drafted)
SG: Hayward 23, Burks 25
PG: Harris 20, Hopefully Lillard 28
I would like to see Burks and Carroll be our starters if we do not upgrade at wing. I really like Hayward off the bench. As far as minutes go Hayward should get more than both but in a Manu Ginobli type role. He should finish the game on the floor.
Burks: 20-30 min per
Carroll: 20-30 min
Hayward: 30-35 min
Kanter: 20-30 min
Evans is really overrated on this site in my opinion. I am fine with his current role on the team. He is a really exciting player but I am iffy on whether he is NBA quality or not. Maybe a few more minutes here and there but I dont think he is a rotation player at this point. He can get better though and I hope he does. He is really fun to watch. I hope we keep around though because he is very likable. And he is probably the only thing keeping Gordon Hayward sane while living here. I wonder how Derrick Favors manages it without a family or friends. Didnt he have his uncle move out here with him?
Until Burks (no e in his name) picks up his defense, I’m fine with seeing him around 10 minutes. Carroll is a filler player, so anything from 0-10 is fine. Anything fewer than 25 for Kanter is just unacceptable. I’d like to see Evans given more of a shot, but there isn’t really any position he can effectively defend from what I’ve seen. The guy is explosive on offense though. It would be nice if we can find something like 15 a game.
I like a lot of the thoughts and ideas. But minutes are earned, and if your not earning them your on the bench. I like the 30 min to 35 min a game mold. Keeps people fresh. Tossing someone into a pool and expecting them to swim, even in time wont always work.
I wouldnt mind seeing some switch up, depending upon matchups, thats what is nice about our youth, they are versatile.
Kanter is going to take a little time guys, he is still quite young and a little behind. Its easy to get excited about what we see from him. Makes you want to see into the future.
Evans brings it each and every night. Will he ever be a superstar, doubt it, he is a tweener. He is young enough to still work on some skills and improve. How can you get upset about a kid who sits until called upon doing nothing but cheering on his team mates, then gets 1.7 rebs, .8 blcks, and 2.1 pnts all in 7.5 mins. Thats what they look for in a player someone who can average a reb every 4.5 mins, playes defense, and brings energy to the game all for the bargain price of under a mil.
I’ll throw in my two bits…..
I’d like to see:
Kanter 12-24 minutes The most important thing is to get him in during both halves of the game. Depending on matchups & how he plays should help determine how long of a stint in each half. He came a long way during his first year, but still has a ways to go.
Burks 15-28 minutes He shows no fear, and we need that quality on the floor. He’s still got alot to learn, but his progress this past year seemed to accelerate when getting consistent minutes.
Carroll 12-20 minutes He plays well without the ball in his hands and without having any plays called for him. That can be a great quality with certain lineups.
Evans 0-12 minutes Not quick enough to guard 3’s & not strong enough to guard 4’s. Nice energy & matchup guy. Should only be on the floor against lower level backup 4’s.
. Kanter could have developed better last season with more minutes on a different team less jammed at the front court.
I agree with Omar. Kanter’s best game against L.A. was no mystery. And I dont blame Ty for the low minutes Kanter got all season. As a first year coach he would lose credibility across the league if he played Kanter more and lost games. But if AL was gone there would be no choice for Ty to play him.
It was too easy for Kanter to look towards the bench for a sub if his low post game wasnt working or he got into foul trouble. He was never forced to produce offensively. He never used all of his tools.
If you watch the Nike Hoop summit game where he beat Dirks record, Enes would attack inside until they crowded the paint and then shoot 15-28′ers on them. Thats his game. He is a good offensive player. He will adapt post moves for the NBA speed but The beast inside Kanter isnt going to come out with a leash and veteren binky. He needs a chance to fight and use everything hes got and then go practice on the weak spots for the next time.
I personally believe that Kanter is best suited on the bench for this next season and possibly beyond. Most people agree he isn’t ready to play at the starting center position but he needs minutes to develop. I propose the KOC sings a mediocre FA center this off season. Someone who will rebound and get a few points here and there, but will split evenly the center minutes with Kanter. That way Kanter isn’t pressured but he still gets to produce. Depending on how he reacts, next year he can either start for sure, or we can have him start about half of the games and give him some practice. Either way, giving Kanter healthy experience is the best path we can put him on.