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#FireCorbin
Posted by: Nick Knows All on December 23rd, 2012
The author's views are entirely his or her own and may not reflect the views of the Utah Jazz.Tyrone Corbin is a disgrace to the Utah Jazz franchise and to the coaching profession in general. I have never seen a more inept, incompetent, stubborn, oblivious and completely useless coach in any professional sport.
Just shameful. I mean words do not describe what an outrageously terrible coach this man is. His coaching is so bad it’s comical. He couldn’t do a worse job coaching if he tried. If our front office has complete faith and confidence in Tyrone Corbin, than this franchise is doomed.
Are we tanking? Is that what’s happening? Because that is the only explanation that makes sense for playing Randy Foye and Earl Watson more minutes than Derrick Favors, Enes Kanter, Alec Burks, Gordon Hayward, and even Marvin Williams.
If Tyrone Corbin was coaching the Dream Team, they would have lost every game. Corbin isn’t fit to coach a Junior Jazz team. Tyrone Corbin isn’t even fit to be a used car salesman at one of Greg Miller’s parking lots. Tyrone Corbin is a monkey in a suit. The only thing he’s missing are clown shoes. What a joke. Corbin is to coaching what Kryponite is to Superman.
And don’t tell me that I’m not a real fan or that I’m impatient. Or that I’m blaming all the team’s problems on Corbin. I’ve written entire blog posts defending Ty Corbin and preaching patience. I’ve noted decisions that he’s made and spoken optimistically that it seems like he’s improving and is actually learning how to do his job.
Our new additions were supposed to make us better. In fact, we’re worse off than we were at this time last season. The team is regressing on every level. There is no offensive system. There is no defensive system. Guys are just wandering around confused and pissed off. No one knows their role. Their roles are not earned; they are arbitrarily assigned on a whim by Tyrone Corbin.
Gordon Hayward and Marvin Williams are killing it, shooting lights out and having a tremendous impact on the game, and Tyrone Corbin pulls them. Randy Foye shooting 0-10? Better keep him in the game, he’s got to make one eventually! There is no rhyme or reason to anything that Corbin does. It’s all arbitrary and random.
It’s not like the man is not tyring. He is. He’s trying very, very hard. And that’s what makes this situation so pathetic. Corbin is just not capable of being a good coach. It’s like expected a parapalegic kid to run a marathon. You can strap Nikes on him and shove him across the starting line, but he’s not going anywhere. He can’t run.
You can give Corbin all the support he needs– tools, assistant coaches, a guaranteed contract, complete autonomy–but at the end of the day, he just can’t coach. It’s more important to Tyrone Corbin to give minutes to the guys that he likes than to win games. His coaching philosophy is “It doesn’t matter if we win as long as we try. We lost the game. Oh well, there’s another one tomorrow. Let’s not talk about what we did wrong, lets just move on.”
What are we, The Bad News Bears? What a poisonous, toxic locker room mentality to have from a head coach. “Losing is OK.” And we wonder why our team has no fire, determination, or toughnmess. We have a passive head coach who lacks fire, determination, and toughness. You don’t give guys the day off after you get blown out in a winnable game. You get their asses into the gym first thing in the morning and MAKE them regret losing that game.
You make it clear that you do not tolerate laziness and poor performance. If one of your starters’ lazy attitude is infecting the team, you sit his ass on the bench until he proves that he deserves to play.
Playing professional basketball is a privellege. These guys are lucky to have what they have and do what they do for a living. No more excuses. No more lip service. If your head coach can’t even inspire his players to put forth real effort on both ends of the floor, YOU FIRE YOUR HEAD COACH.
In 20+ years as a Jazz fan, I have never been more disgusted with this franchise than I am now. The fact that they signed Tyrone Corbin to an extension before he even coached an entire season is extremely concerning. It is a testament o this franchise’s desire to maintain the status quo. To tread water. Not moving forwards or backwards., Just standing pat. In a word: mediocrity.
Enough is enough. Fire Corbin.
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WTF!!!
I barely watching the game on dvr??? I think I threw up in my mouth….
Corbin starts the 3rd quarter with Al and Millsap and Foye and WATSON?! Against the defending nba champs…ya great idea! This unit fell down by 20, who brings the Jazz to within 7—-Kanter, Favors, Marvin, Hayward, and Tinsley. Then Corbin takes out Marvin for Carroll, and then begins to sub the starters.
Marvin is rolling in first quarter and Corbin subs him out as one if the first subs. Kanter is getting points in the paint playing D hitting open shot, and Corbin subs him in.
Foye and Al are rotation players 15-18 minutes, THATS IT! And where the heck is Burks!!!
Fire Corbin, and KOC needs to resign. Its hard being a Jazz fan right now……
Subbed Kanter out that is
Burks has more talent than Demare, Waston and Tinsley combined. Hayward should be playing SF and Burks SG while Demare is the bench warmer. And who decided all of the sudden Watson is the 2nd string when he hasn’t proven sh#t? Tinsley has been great as the 2nd string even though both are pretty bad, Tinsley has been the better PG. Where is the consistency?? I kind of blame the management also for giving him this terribly constructed roster. They need to make up their minds where this team is heading. Rebuilding or 8th seed for life.
There’s Burks!!! Damn with 2 minutes left, but didn’t back down from LBJ, like other Jazz players. Look at how easy Burks makes it look?! And he’s shooting about 48% for the month of December, what does he have to do to get some PT!!
Tomorrow Vaughn vs Corbin should say a lot about how sorry Jazz future looks with Corbin, and how responsible Jazz FO is in ruining all this young potential!
Yeah, the management deserves a lot of the blame. They were the ones who gave this man a contract. Corbin’s poor performance is also indicative of poor judgement on their part.
This roster is fine. It’s not great, but it’s better than .500. If you ever find yourself making excuses for Ty Corbin, just ask yourself, what would this team look like with Greg Popovich as a coach?
Randy Foye would not be playing. Niether would Earl Watson.
AL Jefferson would be coming off the bench.
Jamaal Tinsley would probably be our starting point guard, because he’s the only who’s capable of running our offense.
Derrick Favors and Enes Kanter would be starting.
Alec Burks would be getting at least 25 minutes a game.
Nick: Please don’t pretend to know exactly what Popovich, or any other coach would do with this roster. That having been said, I share your frustration with Corbin, and Jazz management.
At least from my point of view, we now have a large enough sample size of what this team has the capability of being with Jefferson and Millsap as your top two options. What you have is a team that plays slightly above .500 ball, and is a borderline playoff team that isn’t capable of winning a first round matchup against a top four seed. I was content with that last season.
But now I want more.
Unfortunately, Corbin did get an extension, and probably won’t be leaving anytime soon.
When was the last time the Jazz EVER fired a coach?
Frank Layden and Jerry Sloan both made the decision to step down themselves.
A stat I would be very interested in knowing is what Paul Millsap averages (in all statistical categories) in games over the last two seasons, in which he plays, but Al Jefferson does not.
My educated guess is that he has a much better stat line when Jefferson doesn’t play. I’m just curious to know. I realize it will be a small sample size, because Big Al hasn’t missed that many games since joining the Jazz (unlike Carlos Boozer).
Bravo Nick. I 100% agree with every word here. I also defended Corbin over his first two seasons, saying he needed a little time before he could be reasonably evaluated.
But that time has come and gone. He’s making the same mistakes and dumb decisions that he made from day one. This team is getting worse and worse, and the only thing he does about it is give the laziest players more playing time. As long as he has control over this team, mediocrity is its highest ceiling.
#FireCorbin
@Jason – Everybody has a better statline when Al isnt playing, Paul in particular as he gets all the plays run through him instead. If Favors plays with Paul his poor D and shorter stature are only masked by favors ability.
Nick 100% agree #FireCorbin
Like Jason said – When was the last time the Jazz fired a coach?
Honestly. ‘m really worried the Jazz FO hitched their wagon to the wrong horse and won’t have the balls to admit their mistake and fix it.
Kanter and Favors NEED to be on the court. We need a coach that recognizes that Favors and Kanter are better all-around players who will develop into something much more than Paul and Al would ever be. The play we’ve gotten from Al and Paul has NOT been good enough to continue to give them 30-35 min over the talent of Faves and Kanter, which is right at the starter’s level when you factor in their defensive strengths.
And now, with Mo hurt, we are really screwed as Tinsley and Earl are a huge drop in talent at PG. To me it would be better to play Burks and Hayward over either guy. You HAVE to put talent on the court.
I don’t know what the hell Corbin has to do to lose his job-I mean, he’s already smeared the Jazz organization with selfishness, idiocy and mediocrity-Are we not voicing loud enough? It’s getting ridiculous. Last night we had a very winnable game going into the third quarter, and even with four minutes left in the fourth, but oh no, not while sheriff Corbin is in town! Let’s see, remove everyone on the floor with talent and momentum, check. Assess the competition; defending champs, should be sufficient, so check. And finally, shove in the embodiments of mediocrity, the starting scrubs, and voila! Embarrassed.
If we were to get rid of Corbin and bring in an outsider coach who has a more liberal personality, we wouldn’t need to trade anyone. Jefferson makes a fine backup center. Millsap would be SMOY. All the players who deserve to play would be playing substantial minutes, and we’d be winning. The phrase, “Prefer to watch the youth lose than the vets win.” doesn’t apply anymore. The vets are losing. Not just losing, but losing in a very ugly and despicable way. The youth outplay them in almost every sense (With the exception being touches; I don’t think anyone would ever get as many FGA as Jefferson)
We all spend a lot of money and time to support this organization and enjoy our favorite team play, and the Jazz FO is really letting us down with their lack of drive to win. I’m very disappointed.
Oh, and has anyone else noticed Corbin’s, “every other game” mentality with Watson and Jamaal? They each play two games in a row, then get two DNP’s in a row, with the exception of last night, because of Mo’s injury. I’m all for consistency, but my God has Corbin got the wrong idea of the word. Watson shouldn’t even be playing basketball. How can he mercilessly bench Burks and then give Watson quality playing time? What goes on in his head? He’s a moron!
BRAVO BRAVO BRAVO!!
Was it Hayward that found Derrick on the P&R where he almost dunked on 2 Heat defenders but was fouled? That play should be a mainstay for this O. Sure he didnt get the bucket but he converted the freebies. Faves has shown that he works on his weaknesses, and is developing low post moves, and we all know about his Defense. He needs to start. Period. End of story.
Hayward/Burks to Favors/Kanter for the bucket/freebies sounds good to me, for a looong time for this franchise.
How would you guys feel about the Jazz promoting Jeff Hornacek to head coach?
I love me some Horney but Im afraid of the status quo remaining the same. Jeff was a hell of a player and knows the P&R offense works. Not the Iso Al/contested long jumper O we run currently.
He couldnt be worse than Corbin tho, could he?
I think Jeff would be a huge improvement, but then again, anyone would. But I can’t help but feel that Jeff wouldn’t contradict too many of Corbin’s biases. I think we need fresh blood.
AMEN
I find not much substance in this thread, but I do miss a no-nonsense O where players know where to go, use blocks right (and hard) and look for the cutter to the basket.
I miss players like AK (when healthy) and Harpring that didn’t back down and could really leave a mark.
As for Demarre’s talent: Don’t sell the guy short. I am delighted by the energy he brings. Gordon in comparison is burdened with the offense, so he sometimes looks a bit lost out there (don’t get me wrong, I really like Gordon, too).
In February I’d really like to see the team play Jazz basketball, not Washington Basketball. Play as if you want to win a championship! If you lose, at least you have given all.
Like Taco I was also a supporter of Corbin for the first 2 years. I think I started losing the hope for him the end of last season. And this year he clearly has problems inspiring and holding all players accountable (especially vets who you should hold most accountable to lead the rookies).
Something is broken in your coaching if your team is in the bottom 10% of the league in defense. Roster lineups starting and in game minute distribution are a joke.FO deserves some blame, but Corbin is in charge and makes the calls.
I agree with this post, FIRE THAT INCOMPITANT LOSER CORBIN, HE IS INCAPABLE OF COACHING ANY TEAM AT ALL. HE SHOULD HAVE LEFT THE JAZZ BENCH WHEN JERRY SLOAN DID. WE ARE NOT MOVING FORWARD BUT BACKWARDS AND IT IS VERY NOTICABLE AND UPSETTING TO THE REAL JAZZ FANS OUT THERE. WE HAVE THE TEAM THAT BEING SAID WE MUST TRIM THE FAT, I MEAN GET REAL WHAT THE HELL ARE WE DOING WITH EARL WATSON AND JAMAAL TINSLEY??? OUR YOUNG GUYS ARE GREAT THEY JUST NEED GUIDENCE AND THEY ARE CONFUSED ON THE COURT BECAUSE LACK OF GOOD COACHING,,,,,,,,,, FIRE CORBIN!!!