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Jerry Sloan- All Substance, No Sizzle… All Cake, No Icing.
Posted by: Ryan Walker on February 10th, 2011
The author's views are entirely his or her own and may not reflect the views of the Utah Jazz.After spending all morning feeling like nothing is right in the world, i’m trying to remember the last time such a trivial thing as basketball made such an impact in my day. We don’t know all of the facts so i’m going to reserve all of my feelings and thoughts until the facts are gathered. What I do know is that Jazz fans just lost one of the most beloved and successful coaches in the history of SPORTS. His system was tried and tested for over 23 years, and although every year experts and players said that it was too predictable, too old school, blah blah blah….
To quote Scott Van Pelt of ESPN- “Jerry Sloan was all Cake, No Icing. All Substance, No Sizzle.”
In the end it seems as if the organization that stuck by his side for over two decades, was tired of Cake and Substance… I have a feeling they’re going to be pretty hungry for those things in the next couple weeks. Obviously we don’t know what went down exactly but just to get discussion going let’s look at one point of view.
Yahoo Sports Reports-
“After repeated clashes with star point guard Deron Williams(notes) and a belief he had become undermined with ownership, Jerry Sloan resigned as the Utah Jazz coach after 23 seasons, league sources told Yahoo! Sports.
The increasingly contentious relationship between Sloan and Williams boiled over when they clashed at halftime of a loss to the Chicago Bulls on Wednesday night. Sloan, 68, had agreed to a one-year contract extension in the past week but his growing frustration became public after a long meeting with Jazz general manager Kevin O’Connor following the team’s loss to the Bulls in Salt Lake City.
Sloan’s relationship with Williams had grown progressively worse over the course of the season, league sources said, and the coach had tired of dealing with the team’s best player. The frustration escalated on Wednesday night when Sloan and Williams clashed in the locker room at halftime.
“He decided right there in halftime that he was done,” a league source told Yahoo! Sports. “He felt like ownership was listening more to Williams than they were to him anymore. He was done.”
One source said Sloan had become tired of Williams “blaming everything on everyone else.” Still, Williams, who can become a free agent in the summer of 2012, has remained the Jazz’s best and most consistent player after the departure of several key teammates. Williams has always had a reputation for wanting to win badly and being a strong leader.
Obviously Deron isn’t THE reason that Jerry Sloan left, but let’s not be so naive as to think that their relationship was healthy or happy. Deron ignored Sloan’s wishes to run certain plays in the game against the Bulls, and i think the disagreement was the final STRAW. Not the reason or even the main reason, because No one could push Jerry Sloan besides Jerry. Now we have an opportunity to move on with our new coach Ty Corbin, and hopefully we all support him and this year’s squad. Deron has the right to have an opinion on all things basketball and to be frank, he knows a lot more than most people. Deron DIDN’T push Sloan out and now we just have to accept that it was Sloan’s wish and remember that life goes on!!!
GO JAZZ!!!
I’m Speechless. What do you think?
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They found out Jerry hasn’t actually signed an extension and it was a rumor posted by a Sacremento blogger.
I am speachless too. Players need to listen. You could tell when the Jazz were listening to Sloan, they made baskets. When Deron called his own plays they ended up taking jumpshots.
Kevin O’Connor and Greg Miller are just as much to blame for this team’s woes. Yeah… listen to the whiney players that drop the ball on your last 3 plays of a game you could have won. And then bring in Forward to play your Center and get upset at your Coach when they can’t handle the Centers in the league.
Greg Miller doesn’t have any passion for this team. Last year when the Jazz needed to beat the Suns, last game of the season, winner holds the 3 spot in the West, he showed up at the airport in the 3rd quarter with tickets to Hawaii. When I asked him why he left the game already he said, “It’s already over.” When I replied “Way to support them.” he gave me an annoyed ‘who are you’ look. I’m a fan Greg… Eff you.
It seems like the quote about Jerry saying he wouldn’t deal with Greg miller was completely false… It seems like Greg Miller has Jerry’s back completely.
Obviously we have to move on and not point fingers, because at the end of the day we still have to play basketball tomorrow. Deron is our best player and no matter what transpired between him and Jerry, the last thing we want is to become the Cleveland Cavaliers.
Okay, for starters, everyone knows that Yahoo Sports is completely full of crap. So the fact that you even used them as a source for this post is ridiculous. Secondly, Van Pelt doesn’t know an effing thing about basketball, he’s a golf man. Get some better sources and then we’ll talk, or is everything you read on the internet and on ESPN 100% true? Please
Hey yoshi or whatever your name is– maybe you should learn to speak English and understand that the metaphor, “All substance, no sizzle and all Cake no Icing” is a COMPLIMENT to Jerry Sloan. Stop being ignorant for one moment and READ.
Jon–Same to you. Ha ha ha wow…. P.S. Last time i checked Scott Van Pelt has his own radio show on ESPN, and also is a host on SportsCenter— but oh that’s right you’re a jazz fan named Jon and that makes your opinion more valuable. My bad… All Substance, No Sizzle=Good thing.
I’m not an expert and don’t claim to be- I quoted what people were saying, and asked what people were thinking. Simple as that-
Yoshi or yogi– i read your ignorant comment on one of my fellow jazzbots “Jazzaholic” posts yesterday and it showed how simple and uninformed you are. Talking about how he should get out and play basketball before he started critiquing professional players??? He never once said anything about being good at basketball (which i’m positive is something you’re also inept at) and you rip him apart for WRITING about a game. Stop running around this site and bullying people that are more talented and informed than you are. It’s tiring and boring… Thanks.
Not a Jazz fan. Knicks are my team i just happen to live in utah and Scott Van Pelt having his own radio show- BFD. So does PK. That has nothing to do with importance of opinion. I know my opinion is not important to people you cheer for teams with no Rings. Slam the Knicks i am use to it but they have a Banner.
All Meat No Gravy my new Quote. Breaking News in the future July 4 2013 Knicks sign D-Will . Oh that sound good to me.
“No player is bigger than the club”
Its a messed world when Sloan resigns before Egypts President Mubarak!
Sloan is nearly 70 years old. Does anyone even comprehend this day was coming regardless?? Is it wrong for him wanting to experience his life outside the rigorous NBA schedule?? It just so happens he decided to do this when the Jazz are struggling. You can read all the reports, no one knows the truth except Kevin O’Connor, Jerry Sloan, Phil Johnson and Greg Miller. It was a matter of time, quit whining and pointing the blame on Williams or whomever else.
THANK YOU O’CONNER! THIS WAS THE RIGHT CHOICE! THANK YOU JERRY!! YOU WERE AWESOME AND ARE GREATLY APPRECIATED AND RESPECTED AS IS PHIL!! NOW LETS GET SOME W’S AND A NEW FRESH OUTLOOK AND WE’RE GOOD TO GO!!
DERON, YOU ARE THE BEST POINT GUARD IN THE LEAGUE!! WIN THIS STATE A ‘CHIP!! WE NEED IT!!
The only thing that frustrated me was the fact that I never said scott van pelt was the last word on anything ha ha I jut posted what was going on at the time, and the feelings that were swirling around to induce some discussion– not to sit and read annoying comments on how I should get better sources??
I wasn’t breaking any news, everyone knew what was going on and like I said just wanted to see what people were thinking, period. No one knows what happened exactly and we probably will never know, the main issue is you misconstruing the intent of the article. What’s done is done and I’m ready to root for the jazz tomorrow just like I was ready before this happened. I blog for fun, there is no paycheck last time I checked so take it back a notch and understand where I was coming from.
Sounds good. Go JAZZ!!!