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Favors to the Heat?
Posted by: Suhpo on February 4th, 2013
The author's views are entirely his or her own and may not reflect the views of the Utah Jazz.This is my first post on here so dont be too harsh please
But anyway, I have just been looking at trade rumors around the web and I came across a article that said the heat are trying. to trade for Derrick Favors. The article states that they would send Mike Miller over to us for Favors. Now to me this sounds ridiculous but I prey that the jazz will not take that offer. What do u guys think?
Here’s the article:
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http://sports.gather.com/viewArticle.action?articleId=281474981843625
That is the stupidest thing I have ever read
What John said..
I’ll trade Favors to the heat if we get Lebron back and Miami pays most of the rest of his contract out.
Nooooooooooo!
Never ever happen!
Jazzaholic
What L.K. said..
After Jazz resign Al, Favors will just leave via FAncy to play with a championship contender instead of the progressively worse (Houston, Portland, Mavs, and Lakers will get better) Jazz team built around Al and run by Corbin. I could see him with Heat, theyd probably hold teams to like 60 points per game.
Good for Favors.
Its tough love, but thats what the Jazz deserve for as payback for the way they have stunted his development, and never fully trusted him.
@Omar
Sorry, but it really drives me crazy when people talk about our young guys leaving in free agency. There is a thing called restriction after a players first contract! The Jazz can match whatever offer they get! I dont know why people dont understand this…. Im fine with criticism also but being a downer on every post really gets old.
Brandon….
Sorry but I can count to 58… you try adding 3 Max players to one team while filling out the rest of the roster—the roster that will be paying Foye a lot more, DC a lot more, and that doesn’t even include resigning Millap or Mo. SO, can you tell me how the Jazz can resing Al and match to max contracts from Hayward and Favors.
SO this thing called “restriction after a players first contract!” just means the Jazz are going to have a big three in Al, Hawyard,and Favors…..what about the rest of the roster…oh ya, and nevermind the fact that Burks and Kanter will be up the following year where they too will have “restriction after a players first contract!”
“After the Jazz resign Al” ….is what I wrote…FYI
What Breck said!
@omar
What you said is Favors leaving during free agency… FYI
Also .. you can go over the Cap to sign players you have Bird Rights to.. FYI
I highly doubt a small forward like Hayward, averaging 13 points 2 boards and 2 assists is going to get a MAX contract. How exactly do you see him with the Heat if you just told me you can count to 58? And yet you see him as a max player, alongside Lebron, Wade, and Bosh? Your 58 isnt adding up
See Favors with the Heat *
The iazz track record though already is a good hint they wont go over the cap. So 58 is the magic number but if the jazz trade young talent like favors or kanter before paul or al they are crazy especially for mike miller you don’t gain anything at all
@omar and trevor – the Jazz are already over the salary cap, only a couple teams are not… 58 million is really low, the Jazz current payroll is %67million ….The Jazz will resign Favors and Hayward as restricted free agents either way, Brandon is right. Favors will be making 6 million next season on his rookie contract, and will get an offer for around 4yrs/$40 million (maybe less) as a free agent, which the Jazz will match…Hayward will make 3.5 million next year, and probably get an offer around 4 yrs/28 million … Favors and Hayward’s combined salaries would increase by 7.5 million – exactly what Marvin’s expiring contract is worth next season… Just Watson and Bell equal 5.8 million this season (other people can count to 58 too, I mean 70.3)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NBA_salary_cap
The Jazz “track record” actually shows that they go over the salary cap every single season.
@Brandon, pleas do not pretend like the Jazz spend the same way the Heat spend?! Are being serious? Or are you just trying to be argumentative?
Heat have the 4th highest payroll; the Jazz have the 22nd highest.
Heat: $83,558,532
Jazz: $65,551,445
That’s a about a 20M difference?
“After Jazz resign Al, Favors will just leave via FAncy to play with a championship contender instead of the progressively worse (Houston, Portland, Mavs, and Lakers will get better) Jazz team built around Al and run by Corbin”—is what I said.
Firstly, if I was Favors agent and worked for Favors no the Jazz, I would tell KOC, “hey, my guy is a potential superstar, and he is averaging less minutes than Adam Morrison by his 3rd year?! My guy is signing your qualifying offer sheet, and then at the end of year (2014-15) we are testing FREE AGENCY; so you can either trade us now in the offseason (2013-14), or play him and we leave for nothing at the end of the year. Your call.” Meanwhile, like I wrote, Jazz will be getting progressively worse as the aforementioned teams get better.
So ya, I can see Favors leaving via free agency to play for a championship contender. Now, did I say the Heat are the absolutely only team ever that can ever be the only team that Favors will go too??? NO! Did I say the Heat absolutely cannot trade Bosh?? NO! In a couple of years, I can see Favors leaving via Free agency as the Jazz get worse. FYI.
Anyway, Favors will either sign the qualifying offer at 7.8M in 2014-15 and let it be know hes leaving at the end of year, or resign—which I never said the Jazz could not do.
@Brandon, unless I missed something in what I wrote, I NEVER said Jazz absolutely CANNOT ever in the existence of know time go over 58!! DID I?? Go back and reread it. So as of now the Jazz are 7M over the 58M. OKAY. So now how do the Jazz pay
Al more money
Favors more money
Hayward more money
DC more money
Foye more money
AND do that with 7M dollar….unless you are telling me the Jazz will starting going over the cap by a lot like Heat, Nets, Lakers???
AND that doesn’t even include resign Millsap for more money, and improving our PG position…oh ya, and the following year…FYI….Kanter and Burks will be getting paid more money!
So again, Brandon, how exactly do the Jazz (right now a 7th/8th seed with the Lakers and Mavs being garbage) pay the players on a roster that is at best an 8th seed more money, while not going significantly over the cap, and get better to where they are completive so that their young players want to stay and/or other high quality Free Agents would want to come…AND get paid themselves?? You still didn’t tell me…..
Sports writers look at teams like the Jazz as minor league teams training talent for the big stage. All this article really means is that they are salivating over what Favors can do, which confirms to me that we have a championship piece in Favors.
@Omar – you forgot to point out the ridiculousness of using wikipedia as a source
Omar.. at least do some research before bashing me.
2009- 84 million #2 in NBA
2010- 71 million #7 in NBA
So to say the Jazz will never spend Miami Heat money for a team (83 million) is completely false, because they did it 3 years ago. So yes I was being serious!!
By the way, Adam Morrison averaged 13 minutes a game in his third year, which was actually his second because he was out the whole second year. So if we are going by third year he was actually playing, he averaged 5 minutes a game. Once again, you’re wrong. Like I said, do some research before spouting stuff off.
And when talking about paying players to get an 8th seed, you are the one saying they will resign everyone. Ill be just as mad if they resign Al to a max contract. So dont act like I have the same opinion as you on who they are going to sign after this year.
http://hoopshype.com/salaries.htm
COPY: PASTE
@Brandon,
BREAKING NEWS!! BREAKING NEWS!! NBA LOCKOUT ENDS—NEW, I REPEAT, NEW CBA AGREEMENT!
If the Jazz ever play a whole season with a top three payroll under the new CBA… I will delete my account. BET!
Would you like me to repost my breakdown of #3 picks?? Look at the total averages in the first 3 years of number 3 picks. Favors is at Adam Morrison’s level.
http://espn.go.com/nba/player/_/id/3016/adam-morrison
20.4 (career) minutes averaged after the 09-10 season (Morrison’s 3rd year)
http://espn.go.com/nba/player/stats/_/id/4257/derrick-favors
20.7 (career) minutes averaged so far up to now, 2012-13 season (Favors 3rd year)
Lets see….. 20.4 looks a lot like 20.7. I need to do more research to verify though……
Please, don’t tell me I need to decode this for you any further. I won’t.
FYI: As standard of measure—D WILL (number 3 pick by Utah Jazz)
http://espn.go.com/nba/player/stats/_/id/2798/deron-williams
Up til 07-08, D Will’s 3rd year, he was at 34.3 (career up til then) minutes per game.
Anyway….once again I am right! I think I do enough research—you on the other hand……
Anything else?
http://www.spotrac.com/nba/utah-jazz/derrick-favors/
Considering after Adam Morrison played 31 minutes a game his rookie year, he averaged 8 after that, ill go ahead and throw that out the window! Good comparison though champ!
All you do is complain and its annoying as hell
“Considering after Adam Morrison played 31 minutes a game his rookie year”…….EXACTLY!!!!!!!
Other number 3 draft picks:
2000: Darius Miles
1st year, 26.3 minutes; 2nd year, 27.2 minutes; 3rd year, 30.0 minutes
2001: Pau Gasol
1st year, 36.7 minutes; 2nd year, 36.0 minutes; 3rd year, 31.5 minutes
2002: Mike Dunleavy
1st year, 15.9 minutes; 2nd year, 31.1 minutes; 3rd year, 32.5 minutes
2003: Carmelo Anthony
1st year, 36.5 minutes; 2nd year, 34.8 minutes; 3rd year, 36.8 minutes
2004: Ben Gordon
1st year, 24.4 minutes; 2nd year, 31.0 minutes; 3rd year, 33.0 minutes
2005: Deron Williams
1st year, 28.8 minutes; 2nd year, 36.9 minutes; 3rd year, 37.3 minutes
2007: Al Horford
1st year, 31.4 minutes; 2nd year, 33.5 minutes; 3rd year, 35.1 minutes
2008: OJ Mayo
1st year, 38.0 minutes; 2nd year, 38.0 minutes; 3rd year, 26.3 minutes
2009: James Harden
1st year, 22.9 minutes; 2nd year, 26.7 minutes; 3rd year, 31.4 minutes
2011: Enes Kanter
1st year, 13.2 minutes; 2nd year, 3rd year, 15.4 minutes
……hows that for a good comparison, lol!…..champ!