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Game 17: Thunder 106, Jazz 94
Posted by: TACOREV on November 30th, 2012
The author's views are entirely his or her own and may not reflect the views of the Utah Jazz.The Thunder are just a better team than the Jazz, and it showed in Oklahoma City. Kevin Durant scored 25 and Russell Westbrook had a near quadruple double (yes, you read that correctly) with 23 points, 13 rebounds, eight assists, and seven steals to lead the Thunder. Kevin Martin finished with 19 off the bench, while Serge Ibaka and Kendrick Perkins each added 12.
Enes Kanter led the Jazz (yes, you read that correctly too) with a career high 18 points on 8-of-11 from the field, with seven boards in just 15 minutes of playing time. Jefferson had 16 & 11 while Mo, Millsap, and Hayward each finished with 13. Foye added 12 on 4-of-8 from downtown.
Carroll started in Marvin’s stead, scoring four points on 2-of-5 with four rebounds, three blocks, and two steals, playing solid defense.
The game had an Alec Burks sighting. He played 14 minutes, scoring just three on 1-of-5 with two rebounds, a steal, a block, and a turnover.
Favors played just nine minutes before leaving with injury and is questionable heading into tomorrow night’s match-up with the Rockets.
The Jazz fall to 9-8 and will need a victory in Houston to come out on the winning side of the 3-game road trip.
Jazz player of the game: Enes Kanter
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You hit the nail on the head…the Thunder are a better team then the Jazz (probably the best team in the western conference).
I was really proud of the way Enes Kanter played tonight. He was able to take advantage of Favors injury, and deserves major props.
In his short stints on the floor this season, Burks hasn’t impressed me as much as last season. I’m thinking his style of play and that of the Jazz don’t really mesh that well with one another. I know the kid can play though.
After having watched how Tinsley ran the team while Mo Williams was sidelined with injury, I’m wondering if the Jazz would be better off starting Tinsley at point, and Mo at the shooting guard. I’m not a huge fan of how Mo distributes the ball, and I think he plays better when he’s looking for his own shot. What about a second group of Watson, Foye, and Hayward together on the floor at the same time?
Pretty frusterating game to watch. It cracks me up how it seems that each game 1 or 2 players play great and the rest of the team sucks balls.
Earl had some great assists, and Kanter was breaking necks and cashing checks. Our defense in the first half was God awful, altough it’s been like that the first half of pretty much every game.
Burks got some actual time and looked like a bench player from the D-League. Hopefully Faves is back tomorrow night. I need a pick me up W after this sadness.
Burks is falling for the famous CJ trap. You have to ease into the game off the bench, take it to the hole first, not take the first 3 early shot clock jumpers and threes that you get.
I just think he’s feeling pressure that he has to perform well, right away, because his playing time is so limited. His game is taking it to the hole and getting to the line, and then spot-up threes secondary to that, but what we’re seeing is him trying to score off the dribble and a jump shot. Not his game. I’d still like to see him get more some substantial time over a few games and a chance to settle in and get back to what he does well and then evaluate him.
With the incredible amount of depth on this roster, and two first round picks in the coming draft, the Jazz are in the best position they may ever be in to make a trade to acquire a star player. I might be willing to make a 4 for 1 trade, and possibly even throw in a draft pick if I could get a young all-star caliber player in return. However, if the team doesn’t act now, several of these players may be lost to free agency this coming summer, and any chance of making a block buster deal would be out the window at that point.
The Jazz don’t need Jefferson AND Millsap.
The Jazz don’t need Tinsley AND Watson.
The Jazz don’t need Foye AND Burks.
The Jazz don’t need Carroll AND Evans.
What the Jazz DO need is a “star” player.
There has to be a team that may be headed in the wrong direction, with a star player, that might be looking for depth, and/or expiring contracts. Any ideas anyone?
No one has been more disappointing to me this year than Hayward. Does anyone realize he is only shooting 41% from the field and 31% from 3? No one seems to be calling for his head like they are for Foye, so I will. Not only has been shooting terribly, he looks even worse than the stats suggest. Its embarrassing watching him sometimes, its the same Euro step, same 3pt shot clanked, same layup attempt blocked. For every 1 good game, there is 10 bad games.
Trade him now before other teams realize he is just another CJ miles.
Am I overreacting, maybe. But i’m seriously starting to question how good he actually is. I’ve never been a #freeburks type of guy, he hasn’t “earned” minutes for obvious reasons, but what has hayward done to earn his? Give burks time, he actually happens to be a shooting guard, where as hayward tries to be but is not.
You know, the best players in the history of the game have all been athletic and had extra size for their position. Look at Howard, LeBron, etc. Durant is no exception to that. There were a couple times where Hayward played excellent defense on Durant and Durant just had the extra few inches to make it not matter and was able to shoot over him. He’s 6-9 with go go gadget extendo arms and he plays SG / SF! I would have liked to see Marvin Williams guard him, as I think he’s an excellent wing defender on those type of guys. On another note, we all keep talking about our excellent front court, but our defensive deficiencies shone through again as we let Perkins have a big game, and in general their inside game and passing was far superior to ours. Imagine if we relied on cuts and passing instead of pure post-ups….ahh I remember those Jazz days. Anyway, this loss is disappointing because I think we actually played a decent game and still lost by 12.
Im beginning to think Kanter will be better than Favors.
So Jason (and everyone else), since the Jazz are simply clearly not as good of a team as the Thunder, what would it take for them to become that good?
Newsflash: The Jazz will NEVER be as good as the Thunder as long as Jefferson and Millsap are the go-to guys. Jefferson’s defensive deficiencies and offensive black-holedness have been discussed ad nauseum. Millsap’s undersizedness would make him a better fit coming off the bench, but after all the hard work he’s put in over the years, that wouldn’t be in his best interest.
I say trade them both. Seriously. Trade both of them. And I don’t say that in a “raise the torches and protest management, we’ve had enough!” sort of way. I just think that if we as a fan base ever want to see this team become a true contender, they will have to make some significant changes. And it should start with moving these two.
We need a young point guard, and we could really use a dynamic scorer. Meanwhile we already have two promising big guys in Favors and Kanter that are not getting nearly enough playing time. Burks and Hayward haven’t been consistent but both would at least be decent contributors off the bench. We also have a few other role players who would be valuable going forward.
It’s clear that this team is at least two significant pieces away, if not more. We just might be able to trade Jefferson and Millsap for one of those pieces. Involve three, even four teams, whatever it takes to make it work. Then with the draft picks we have coming in, we might be able to find another one.
But….But…But…Hayward is the “Great White Hope” the Jazz have to keep regardless how much of a wasted pick he was…..C.J. Miles 2.0 is his new name……
How’s Millsap for Gortat and Kendal Marshall sound? We get the pass-first PG of the future, unload a lazy Millsap, and get a decent backup for Favors/Kanter.
Hayward can defend which people forgot it a big part of basketball unless they talk about Al. So even when is shot is going down he isnt useless.
Plus teams overall FG% range from low 40 to 48/49% so 41% isnt good but it isnt rubbish.
@jazzman … atleast we’ve got the “great white Turk”
@tacorev … simply based off the minutes he’s been given, you can’t put burks in the same inconsistent category as hayward.
@dean yes he does play good defense and makes it tough for the opponent, but he still gets scored on just like everyone else. take the name hayward off of that stat line and put carroll or millsap on it, which i would say those guys play just as good defense as hayward, if they shoot like that people are going crazy. why does hayward get a pass?
finally some Burks!!!!
First off, Jazz in general were not getting the calls, but that is expected on the road against top tier team. Having said that, Burks played really good D he just did not get the benefit of the calls. Martin only beat Burks on one play were he spun and did one hand shot, so Burks gave him nothing at the hoop or in the paint. Burks athleticism is superb: had a great defensive sequence just by being athletic, block a wide open dunk, then intercepted the pass, that alone is why he needs to be on the court. I counted about 4 deflections on his part, he has active hands and are going to need him later. Burks will be as consistent as his minutes are consistent. I look for a more relax Burks tomorrow and will improve steadily.
Jazz really missed Favors. Again Jazz get killed in points in the paint, Millsap and Al just cannot defend the paint. Im with Taco lets trade both, Jazz can run offense through Kanter. Jazz future frontcourt is scary-good.
The reason Hayward was in the game 4th quarter is because he can D up and Foye can’t, so Ill give a bit of credit to Corbin for thinking Defense and not a three point threat that gets handled on the defensive end. Foye is inconsistent, one-dimenstional, and a veteran: Hayward is inconsistent, multi dimensional, plays great D (frustrated KD), and is in his 3rd year with a dumb coach.
The big hole the Jazz have is backup point guard. Ya Tinsley can get O into its sets, but defensively he is just too old, and ya Watson is tenacious, but he has not O game, and they eat up about 30 minutes of PT to average like 2 points, that horrible.
Al needs to have the offense fun through him to be effective, but that kills everyone else’s game. Kanter has the goods! Favors defensively is elite. I think Jazz need to turn the page already and send away Millsap and Al.
Did you guys see Ibaka??? I repeat, did you see Ibaka?? Do you see what playing time and good coaching does with “raw” talent. Look at how good he looks now, he was just athletic, but he has gotten consistent playing time and good coaching and he murdered any shot in his area!!! Jazz FO and Corbin should learn a thing or two about Ibaka’s development. Kanter, Favors, Burks, and Evans need PT to develop. The NBA bodies are their they just need a lot of PT.
I think Jazz (most players) fought pretty hard tonight and that encouraging, especially since Marvin and Favors didn’t play.
Jazz cut the lead to 5 then Westbrook entered the game, hit a 3 in Watson’s face, and because Watson has no offensive game, Westbrook was free to run around getting steals–it was practically 4 on 5 basketball. Thats a huge whole when Watson and Tinsley are in the game.
TACO – I would really rather keep Al Jefferson. It’s such a luxury in this league to have a low post player who can create his own shot. It’s been very well documented by David Locke, that late in games, Al Jefferson is about as productive on the offensive end as any player in the NBA. I really feel if you play him alongside Favors, and at times Kanter, that some of his defensive shortcomings can at least be partially covered up. He’s also a very solid rebounder.
I would rather package Paul Millsap as the center piece is a trade scenario. Your exactly right when you suggest we need a top flight young point guard, and a CONSISTENT dynamic wing scorer.
I would like to get a player back that hasn’t been in the league more then 6 years, who clearly has a great deal of upside, or may in fact just be entering his prime. If we had a dynamic wing scorer on the outside, to compliment Jefferson’s offense on the low block, we would be a nightmare for teams to defend. Whenever you have an inside/outside scoring duo, it causes big time headaches for the opponent.
Some wing scorers I wouldn’t mind seeing in a Jazz jersey (in no particular order):
Tyreke Evans
Nicolas Batum
DeMar DeRozan
Paul George
Harrison Barnes
I would love for the Jazz to pull off a deal involving Millsap and/or Jefferson to get Greg Monroe from Detroit.
Can you imagine a frontline of Favors, Kanter, and Monroe?
yezzzir.. alot of folks will be on here apologizing to kanter..real soon.. i know the past haters too
According to the NBA Trade Machine this deal works:
Detroit gets: Al Jefferson, Paul Millsap
Utah gets: Greg Monroe, Rodney Stuckey, and Charlie Villanueva
@omar c’mon man… “because watson has no offensive game”??? “it was 4 on 5″??? did you even watch the stretch we cut the lead to 5, WATSON WAS THE REASON BEHIND THE COMEBACK. if he gets a foul call when he was tackled by westbrook, its a completely different game, he is not to blame, so for you to say that is just stupid. i’m not sure the exact number, but he assisted on multiple buckets during that run, i wanna say 5-6, he got everybody else set up for buckets, like a pg should!
@jason bro, the only guy we remotely have a chance of landing, or even going after is Paul George. But do you really think the Pistons would swap the same production from monroe for jefferson, when monroe is 5 years younger and is the perfect complement to drummond? so i can relate this to our team, do you want jefferson to play more or favors….? because pistons say the same thing about monroe
There is no use trading for a young PG whIle Corbin is coach, he won’t play them
Poor poor Steve, you tried….
Actually Watson had a run against Maynor! NOT Westbrook, the first play after Westbrook entered the game was a three and so on. Your stupid if u think Watson can hang with top tier elite PGs. Substitutions are not parallel, in case you havent noticed, so if starter PGs play about 40 minutes, some of those minutes are going to be against Tinsley and Watson. That is a problem.
What’s with all the negativity? I thought this was a great game. I’ve come away from games that we’ve WON this season with a worse feeling then this loss.
Positives:
1. Mo Williams can score. He plays with attitude. We’ve really missed his offensive production.
2. Enes Kanter is a beast. There are people on this site that have called him a bust, or awful, or claim he just won’t ever be good. Those people are stupid. Of the 15 guys on this team, Kanter will be the best in the next couple of years.
3. Alec Burks. This kid needs to play. The box score doesn’t tell the whole story. Burks made 2 huge plays that kept us in the game. He’s so athletic! I’m very glad he took those 3s in in the second half.
Gordon Hayward and Paul Millsap are terrified of shooting. How many times were they both wide and open and refused to shoot the ball? Passing it back to Watson or Williams with 5 seconds left on the clock?
The Jazz need a player with the balls to take shots AND can also impact the game in other ways. I love having Randy Foye, but that guy takes way more questionable shots than Alec Burks.
4. Our bench. Once again, our bench outperformed our entire first unit (with the exception of Mo Williams). I really do wonder if we might have won this game if Corbin didn’t put the starting lineup back in.
Our bench goes on an insane scoring run and get us to within 5 (after being down 18), then Corbin puts the starters back in, and the Thunder promptly go on a scoring run and we lose the game.
I venture this bold speculation: If Corbin did not reinsert the starting lineup, we would have won this game.
But the last and most important event that happened this game?
TY CORBIN BENCHING AL JEFFERSON IN THE FINAL 2 MINUTES. After Corbin replaced Kanter with Jefferson, Jefferson preceeded to stand around an be lazy, not contributing on offense or defense.
As usual, he allowed people to beat him in the paint, literally let them walk into the paint and score without so much as even raising a finger. Jefferson wasn’t even PRETENDING to play defense.
Jefferson came in and started to singlehandedly lose the game for us. And Ty Corbin benched his ass.
This is the biggest positive I came away from this game with.
Omar… Watson was outplayed by a 10 year younger All Star/Olympic gold medalist?! Crazy. Most second/third string pg’s usually dominate him, idk what Watson was doing. Watson was the reason for that 4th quarter push (also Kanter). Don’t hate. Burks was put to shame by a bench player and you wanna lick his balls.
“lick his balls?”,”stupid”? Come on, let’s have a little decorum and respect. I agree with comments on trading Millsap and “BIG Al” sooner than later. PG ( Tinsley and Watson ) can be addressed later, one way or another. I think we’re a little premature with trying to get rid of Coach Corbin. As fans we;re showing very little patience. The Jefferson/Millsap trades could get us a PG or SF and then the 2 draft picks, with a little luck, could make the difference.
@Colten……uuhhhhh duh!!! Thanks for making my point about Corbin playing Watson against elite talent as bad decision. You do realize that was my point right? Here is some advice…..if you want to be insulting make sure you comprehended what is being written, not only does it make you look wrong, but usually makes you look dumb. FYI. Once Westbrook self checked in Corbin should havr countered with Mo, instead he puts Mo in for Burks when clearly, as you so brilliantly pointed out Colten, Westbrook had a HUGE mismatch against Watson. Thanks for the help Colten making my point, hahahha.
Did you eveb watch the game Colten? Martin killes Foye not Burks, but haters are gonna hate I guess. And of are picturing “licking balls” when basketball is being discussed, that sounds like your problem. Its 2012, no ones judging….oh ya cute pic….now I know why youd take issue with me, hahaha, haters gonna hate I guess. Xoxo.
Fellas, fellas. Enough ball licking.
Let’s see how things pan out tonight at Houston.
Are you guys seriously blaming Burks for not being able to stop a very very good offensive player in this league? You do understand he is shooting 50-50-90 right now which is freakin amazing? Once again you are all drinkin the kool aid the FO is throwing out there. You pull a kid off the bench off the defending WC champs and expect him to be amazing? Holy freak! He has not even played 82 games of an NBA game.
This was a better game cause we showed hustle but it all comes back to the same things. Basic fundamental basketball plays are not being made. Boxing out,bad shots, iso play. No accountability between the players. This goes to coaching. The coaches have got to enforce the fundamentals. Play hard do the basic things and we would go from mediocre to good. To many times the starters are allowed to play non fundamental basketball. So the bench does not feel like they need to play that way.
With Paul and Al. You can say all you want which one needs to be here but neither are someone to hitch a franchise to so why are we wasting time to see what we all ready know we get from both? Al is a 2nd tier player and always will be. So if we can get something out of anyone on this roster besides Kanter and Favors because anyone else can be replaced we need to do it. We need a tier 1 guy and that is not going to happen drafting 15-16 every year which we will do as long as Al is on this roster.
Also lets not forget Perkins had 8 more points then his season average that is not Burks guarding him…
Wow guys lets be nice on here . This makes me wince at all the negativity you all are writin . I actaully thought that the starters played a well played 1st quarter , better than I have seen them play in the 1st all season .
Also I want to make a point to ya all Corbin needs more support for tryin these last few games to mix it up a bit . There is not many coaches that can take this team where he has in less than 2 years . I also want to point out that the players need to be accoutable for thier play as well , this is not all on the coaching staff mind you . I have watched plenty of games where players are not putting in the effort ( not just Al n Paul ) that is a must to win games against anyone . This team needs to learn to trust each other and play team ball . There is no way this team can win without it . Jefferson is the closest thing to a all-star that we have at this point . And yes he has some weaknesses , but he has more upside for us .
I am glad that Burkes had a chance to play to , I was pullin for him to show that he had learned his leasson so that he could get more time . I also think that Kanter is coming along and Favours needs to work on his finishing off at the rim .
I love Hayward to but he really needs to get coached with Hornecek on his shooting so he can get his confidence up . He had some open looks that he should have made .
I know someone on here dosent think that Carrol has any offense but I like his effort and he makes more shots than you give him credit for . He is a great spark on our team . I personally think that he is the one that gave our starters the energy to play a better 1st .
But as I have said enough negativity , I thought that this was a good overall game against probably the best in the west as of right now . Now they need to come out in Houston with that same energy in the 1st and we may very well come away with a Win… Go Jazz !!!!
If both Marvin and Favors are out tonight let’s hope we see some Evans..When Burks, Evans, Watson, Kanter, Heyward play together the other team better be on their toes because they will not get a breather..
After Westbrook replaced Maynor in the fourth, Westbrook went 1-3, committed 2 turnovers while Watson was guarding him.
How did Westbrooks numbers look the rest of the night?
Here’s some advice… Don’t act like you know what you’re talking about all the time.
Good point though.
@Jay I would have to disagree that the accountability is not on the coaches. That is where the accountability has to be. If a player is not showing effort they need to be pulled out. That does not happen so people continue to do it. A precedent has been set and a bad one. Yes it is on the players to play with energy but the coaches have to enforce that.
Also the fact that people keep complaining about time and continue to get it is a HORRIBLE precedent that has been set since last year and should be unacceptable
Dallan… Why is it okay to excuse Burks’ bad D on a decent (bench) player, but when Foye can’t stop “Wade, Kobe, Mayo, Ginobli” then he shouldn’t play more than 15 minutes?
I can somewhat understand where you guys are coming from most of the time, but you need to stop holding players to double standards.
@jay & Dallan, i agree with many points from the both of you.
@dallan, i actually thought burks played Martin pretty good. Martin got an and 1 on burks, when it should have gone the other way. He got blocked by ibaka on a fast break, but who didn’t get blocked by him. I think as long as burks gets more minutes, we see more and more positives.
@jay, i too agree Corbin is doing his best to get the best product out on the floor. He has sat millsap in favor of favors during the 4th, last year that never happens. Hes trying. Absolutely agree with you there. I also agree you on Hayward, he needs to simplify his game, he’s trying too hard to “make plays” when he just needs to let the game come to him.
@colten… yes yes yes!!so much yes to this last post!! hahahaha
@omar… sorry bud, i’m not going to call you an idiot, i want to but i wont, again, WATSON was the reason for the comeback!! Corbin brought in Mo to play the 2, because 1) Mo is a good spot up shooter and 2) watson was so effective at getting everyone open shots. Go back and actually watch the game bro. Watson was so effective because he drove the ball and either dumped it off to kanter or kicked it out to burks, hayward or jefferson.
to everyone on here, i apologize if i seem rude, i do not mean to be. i’m a very nice guy, and i will focus on being more positive in my posts towards others. I will admit the only guy i have issues with is omar. I say that omar just so that you are aware, i apologize man, i’m not trying to be rude in saying that.
@dallan the hard part about pulling someone based on effort or accountability, is normally that guy that is not putting forth the effort, is our entire offense. Which is completely frustrating. I agree, certain players should be pulled for no effort, that happens with sloan here. Corbin is in the biggest pickle… Because he has designed his offense around a certain player and needs him out there for it. I also think the fact Favors was not able to play, only magnified that lack of effort, because favors is normally the guy to pick up where others lack.
Again, i agree completely, if a guy isnt giving effort or producing, he should be benched, i’ve said that before. But i understand corbin has to keep a certain player in the game because he’s the offense. its just frustrating my friend.
@Colten He is a very good bench player. He is a premier OFFENSIVE player in this league. You strive to get 40% from three. 50% from two. 90% from the free throw line. Which equals 180. That is the ultimate offensive efficiency stat. Right now he is shooting 46% from two 48% from three and 93% from FT that equals 187. He is going to be in the 6th man of the year running. The reason why we complain about Foye is because he can not defend those guys and he is STARTING! He is not a STARTER he is a 15 min specialist. All he does is shoot threes that is it he does ONE THING. He can not defend,shoot two,get to the line,rebound,assist. Everyone keep saying Burks needs to pass he needs to defend. Foye AST % is 11% Burks is 9% that is not much more your getting from him. Burks gives you more and impacts the game more.
@steve I agree that Burks played well on him. He had not played in 8 games and you bring him on to play a dang good offensive player. That one foul was ridiculous. His shoulder runs into Burks face and that was a foul. Also lets look at the way that OKC played. Especially with Westbrook he has done so well passing this year and look how there offense looked. They were running plays and getting good looks for everyone. They have two of the top 15 players in the league they could easily go 1v1 every game. They do not. They get everyone involved. That is what frustrates me. We have talent to utilize but we do not put anyone in positions to succeed. If we actually ran an offense and sets other people would score. But right now the coach has an offense that compliments one person on the team and does not allow anyone else to use their abilities to their potential. If it takes Al that many possessions to be effective that is not good as well. If GS can get better without Monta Ellis with their talent then we should be able to be better without Al with our talent. Cause it is superior to what GS has.
@Colten (Steve) HAHAHA!!!!!!!!! WOW, that was alllllmost a cute effort, but again you failed
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Like I said earlier: BECAUSE WATSON HAS NO OFFENSIVE GAME….WESTBROOK WAS FREE TO PLAY DEFENSIVE WITHOUT HAVING TO GUARD WATSON!!!!! HOW ELSE DO YOU THINK HE GOT TWO STEALS ON AL (who is pretty good at not TO the ball)—-CUZ HE WAS FREE TO DOUBLE TEAM AL CUZ HE HAD NO FEAR OF WATSON!!!!!
Here is some advise….its not acting when you are right…..HAHAHAHA!!!! That wasnt advise, but here is some…..watch the game, and not the just the box score….good effort champ
xoxo
Just when I thought Hell froze over, Omar compliments Al Jefferson. Nonetheless…
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Westbrook out rebounds our big men and gets 1 steal… Earl Watson should have gotten taller and out rebounded 9 men taller than him. Obviously Mo Williams would’ve done it.
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Burks shot 1-5. Watson shot 1-3.
It’s surprising that Watson is able to manage 8 assists in 13 minutes when the people he is passing to are double teamed.
Here’s some adviCe… You are not right, and your capital letters make you look like a dumb ass.
@omar keep trying to prove us wrong. your an annoying little twerp that does’t know basketball. sorry dude. I have played basketball, and have been coached by guys that get paid to do it, i’ve sat in film rooms, you have not. please stop pretending. i find it funny you only put the events that happened when westbrook was on the floor. why? is it because watson made play after play to get the OKC lead down to 7 that forced coach brooks to put westbrook back in? coach corbin kept watson in because he was the guy that got us to that point. Watson played great, it was not his fault. please stop. this will be the last thing say in reply to you bro.
@dallan that is a great point about GS, its amazing what happens when you make a defense accountable for all 5 guys on the floor. We have 10 guys that can go for 15-20 on any given night, so why can’t we get more players involved? OKC’s offense was a beatiful thing to watch, much like the spurs, everyone was involved,there were screens and cuts, and the ball movement was crisp and precise. Our offense is very, very, very stagnant. its tough when guys don’t hit outside shots, but even then its just not pretty.
Regarding hayward and burks, i played for a coach that stressed getting the ball inside and only wanted us shooting outside if we were open. We had a couple guys that could really shoot in shooting drills, but come game time we really struggled. I know for me, the added pressure from my coach to “shoot only when open” really hurt my play. I don’t know if its the same thing for hayward, but i know if we played in much less restricted offense, the product would have been much better.
WOW!! Anybody who reads this whole thing deserves a star on their forehead..
I will now put in a suggestion to Jazz 360 to put red, blue, and yellow colors for those who want to stress a point so we won’t have to use caps anymore..
Why can’t we just go back to “why you no play Burks??”
@steve I do not know why we can not get more players involved. We still got the ball to Al a couple times when someone cut and dished it off to him. As far as Burks and Hayward and a lot of players go. I feel like we want Burks and Hayward to stand in the corner and shoot threes. That is not their game. If we wanted that we should have drafted that. But we have this weird complex of taking players that have serious skills but are not happy with them because they do not have the skills that we want. Well is that not why we have scouts? a GM? I mean if we want a guy that just shoots three why did we not take Klay Thompson,Marshon Brooks, Quincy Pondexter? All three of those guys are spot up shooters. Especially Klay. We would have had to trade up a pick for Klay but still. If that is what you wanted then that is what you need to go for. If they do not fit your system and what you want to do then why are you drafting them? That to me is not on the players. They need to either put the players in the position to succeed or not draft them if they do not fit what you want to do
@Steve, why do you find it funny??? The “stats” I was refuting where ib relation to Westbrook going 1-3, and having 2to TO. The point I was making was that Westbrook impacted the game defensively with 3 defensive rebounds and 3 steals, which was the point I was making about Jazz playing 4 on 5 cuz the Westbrook was free not guard Watson. Thats was my point!!! Understand??
I appreciate you going with a more subtle route, I expect, and am quite surprised ppl dont use the “my sources from the inside that you no knowledge of, blah, blah”…..thank you a more subtle approach. For all your film study I only read sophomoric personal attacks and ZERO basketball insight??? Not even statistical proof?? Like Ive said before (thats why I respect JRN–where are btw) I respect stats and empirical evidence. So if you want to impress me dont give Life Story of Steve, and talk to me about Jazz basketball…thanks!!!
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Jazz interior D combo of Millsap and Al is complete garbage. That #10 kids plays soccer—oh wait the one with the orange circle think and thw netting–pretty good and stuff.
Dallan for the win! absolutely the coaches need to do a better job of getting these guys in positions to succeed! He is obviously a players coach, and wants to take care of his guys, but i think what you bring up about putting guys in situations to succeed is something he needs to make a lot of improvement in. all of these guys are talented and bring something different to the team, he needs to figure out how to maximize the talent on the team.
I also wonder how much Coach corbin points out the little things to these guys, i don’t know if you guys notice, but the off ball screens we set are absolutely awful, its stand in a place for a second and come off another awful screen. Our offense needs good screens, i hope this is something that is addressed.
It was good to see Hayward and burks have GOOD games tonight, especially hayward making me eat my words. the key though, is the next game. Hopefully both can build off this and continue to contribute.