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Game 65: Thunder 110, Jazz 87
Posted by: TACOREV on March 13th, 2013
The author's views are entirely his or her own and may not reflect the views of the Utah Jazz.Another awful road effort at Oklahoma City (48-17, 29-4 home) leads to a sixth-straight loss away from the Solution.
Kevin Durant led the Thunder with 23 & 10 and Russell Westbrook added 19/9/8. Kevin Martin scored 15, Reggie Jackson put in 12, while Serge Ibaka and Derek Fisher each contributed 10.
Hayward scored 20 to lead the Jazz, with Kanter tallying 12. No other Jazz players posted double digits in scoring (and none in rebounding), marking the second-straight road game in which no starters finished in double digits.
More pathetic effort. Not much else for me to say about this game, due additionally to the fact that I switched over to the Utes Pac-12 tourney win over USC. Every time I checked in on the Jazz game, they were losing by more and more.
I guess the only good thing to happen tonight was Kobe Bryant injuring his ankle in the Hated Lakers’ loss at Atlanta. Apparently he’s out indefinitely, which could help the Jazz out in holding that 8th playoff spot.
Speaking of which, we’re a half-game behind LAL again, currently 9th in the West at 33-32.
Next up is a home date with the Grizzlies (43-19) on Saturday night.
Jazz player of the game: Gordon Hayward
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This org shoulf be sued for gross negligence. . Myfknngoodness
This is why I kept bring up the Jazz record against teams with winning records—especially on the road—prior to the trade
Starters quit tonight. I hope we dont win another game the rest of the season. Simply to improve the chances Corbin is fired.
…deadline.
Jazz are soft!! At least trade Burks in the offseason if your gonna be jerking him around. He was the one guy taking shot that OKC gave him….and he gets bench?! F that. Corbin is a sorry dude!
Same stuff game after game. This post is pointless night in and night out. Don’t get me wrong taco I love them and thank you for the recap but don’t typing the same !@#$% get old??
Ain’t that some $hit that the guys Corbin has babied for 2years are the dudes not fighting, and the players Corbin has screwed were the guys fighing in a 30 point blow-out! Fn trash right there!
Lovr Marvin sticking up for Hayward amd Kanter and Favors always in tje mix, and DC foul—should have leveled KD! Good play tho.
Not really any bright spots in this game…maye the first few mins when jazz were up 12-6? Then they figured out Al was our primary paint defender. Ha probably not fair to hang it all on Al, a lot of bad play was going on. Anyone else questioning Mo running the team?
Oh by the way I hate Derek Fisher.
In fact im happy the starters have quit on him, serves Corbin, KOC, and DL for putting the fans through this !@#$% fest of a season. Not just this season but the stupid ass decisions before this season. Like extending Corbin before he even earned an extension. I’m sick of this organization thinking there is a stigma about utah and having to hire from within or hiring “utah” guys. !@#$% that! You don’t think a coach like Stan Van Gundy or Nate Mcmillan wouldn’t have wanted to coach this team with the players on the roster? I’m sick of this team and refuse to support them the rest of the year. Its bull!@#$% they are ok with being mediocre. I’m sick of these blowout losses, its the most embarrassing thing to be a fan of a team that doesn’t even fight or try. The biggest thing i miss about Sloan is every night you knew the players were bringing a battle, and if someone didn’t come to play their ass was on the bench. Corbin is ridiculously oblivious to what is actually happening on the court. I’m tired of his stupid act of nba coach, he’s fooled us for too long now, go to the WNBA or Euroleague, somewhere we will never here your name again. I haven’t even mentoned Al in this rant but .. Al is the biggest, laziest, and mentally weak piece of $15 million dollar !@#$% i’ve ever seen. I hope he gets traded to somehwhere like charlotte and falls into obscurity.
I can’t wait til next year. It will be the C4’s team and if not i may not watch a game. PLAY HAYWARD, FAVORS, KANTER, BURKS, EVANS, CARROLL, MURPHY, AND LESLIE THE REST OF THE YEAR, THATS IT.
end of rant
I don’t care whether the Jazz makes the playoff or not, if we make it to the 8th spot, we are going to get our butt kick again by the Spurs or OKC, it will be painful to watch again, just like last year, the way we have been playing lately, there is no chance we are going to win.
The saddest thing is I am not even looking forward to the draft or trade, as long as we have Corbin here, he is on drugs every single night and put players who can score on the bench and go with Watson, Tinsley and bunch of hopeless people out there.
I think what the Jazz Nation should do is to make banners outside ESA stating we would not go to any of the home game until Corbin is fired. Hopefully the Jazz FO will response if they see 2/3 of the seat is empty they should know what is going on.
NOT the right solutions!!!
Another one for the dumpster pile.. garbage frekken garbaaaaag..most of us have wasted 2 years.. straight up this team is more boring than the bobcats because atleast bobcats make it fun for a while.
The okc starters were on the bench for right reasons but the jazz $hitty starters should have been in their the whole second half to be humiliated. . Espn.. damm..
Then what are the right solutions???
This is a contract year for the majority of the roster and if CORBIN can’t get them to play with more effort for that, then I don’t know what you do.
RUNNIN’ UTES
Jazz are sucking hard right now. Need to pick up these next two at home, which is easier said than done. GO JAZZ!
@Omar-I was looking at the same stat before the trade deadline, and at the time, considering what the remainder of our schedule looked like I thought for sure we would make a move, even if it didn’t improve our team. I thought the concept of addition by subtraction would have been applied so that our younger more talented guys could get some more run and quite possibly improve the outcome of the season. They must have been offered true crap before the deadline not to pull the trigger on SOMETHING! Or the other teams involved just wanted too much in return.
Both Al and Paul after the game made snide remarks about Corbin.. This could the start of the end! IF ONLY. Hopefully the young guys have not gotten so pissed off at the organization that they do not want to come back
Al Jefferson was 4-13 and 8 points. This is supposedly our best player. And our highest paid player, just $2M or so off of a max salary. And he did his usual “I’ll just let this penetrating guard dunk on me” defense.
Al Jefferson is Corbin’s main go-to guy. Corbin gives this guy more minutes per game than any player at 32 minutes per game.
Corbin is supported by Kevin OConnor and Dennis Linsey. I’ve heard DL on-air excuse Tyrone because “he’s in a tough position”. Jazz management gave Tyrone a 3-year extension before he’d ever had a chance to prove that he’s the right coach or can really get the job done.
The whole thing stinks from the team to the coaching staff to management to ownership.
The Jazz don’t want to be reactive, they don’t want to be disloyal, they believe in long-term stability. BUT, if you’re going to have that sort of culture you HAVE to have the right people in place. It’s imperative to its success to have the right people. I’m 100% positive Al Jefferson is not the right piece. Sure, personality wise, he’s great. Best-player-on-the-team wise NO WAY. I’m 100% positive Tyrone Corbin is not the right coach for this team going forward. This is going to be a young team that needs development. Ty is not the right guy for that. So I guess what the GM Dennis Linsey does about Ty and Al this offseason will show me whether HE is the right guy for the job and so on up to the Millers.
I expected change LAST trade deadline and none came. Favors was ready for more minutes and I’ve always felt about Jefferson that he had to go. No change came. Then THIS trade deadline I felt that Jefferson STILL needed to go, plus Paul (since his intentions were clear by not signing that extension). No change came.
Change better come this offseason.
I had to quit watching this game mid way through the 3rd. I could have watched more if it was a case that Oklahoma were destroying this team by sheer talent and tactical execution but last nights OKC weren’t a great OKC team. No one player on OKC was going on any scary scoring runs, they worked hard on defense, but really it was the typical Jazz performance where a couple of guys started missing shots and then no one trusted their teammate to make a shot. No one moved in the offense, no one made cuts, a couple of passes in the shot clock and an inappropriate jump shot was shot up the baboon we have as a coach pretty much stood on the sidelines watching from the middle of the 1st quarter to the 3rd doing nothing more than making changes in personnel hoping that someone would find his shot instead of reading the riot act and telling his players to play the offense and use the 24 seconds and each other to get themselves good attempts. Recent losses have affected this team’s confidence greatly. But there is no excuse for a field goal percentage of 22%. I’m sick of Corbin’s lack of action it is leading to mediocrity.
Kobe’s injury last night should have been news that galvanizes this squad to go get at least the 8th playoff slot but right now with Corbin’s inaction in games I don’t see the players having the confidence in him or each other to go do that.
When told that Corbin questioned the effort of the starters, Al Jefferson said “He got his own opinion, everyone got their own opinion.”
That to me sounds like a group of free agents led by a free agent knowing that they are about to hop ship.
It is insane to continue to blame games on Corbin. The Jazz got great shots most of the 1st half and just didn’t hit them. The only ‘bad’ shots I saw were Mo chucking $hit with 20 seconds on the shot clock.
As for defense, they only gave up 50 which is around average, to one of the best offenses in the league.
The starters have appeared to play more and more iso ball as the season goes on, knowing well that they are playing for a paycheck next year.
I’m sorry if possession after possession those great shots aren’t going down, those great shots shots are no longer great shots anymore. When that happens its time to execute the offense to get better easier shots, either for you or a teammate. You cannot as a player continue to jack them up in hope thinking that the next one is going to go down. You cannot as a coach continue to watch your team make the same plays and the same misses over and over and just think a change in personnel will lead to better luck. Someone has to step up and trust the team to come through instead of acting like individuals with shoulders too small to take the load.
I agree OKC were not playing like anything special, but they didn’t need to. Good teams know when to conserve their energy for the next challenge. They got a 22 point lead by half time playing average basketball.
Andy
If you don’t think this crazy downward spiral is Ty’s fault, you my friend are a fool. I don’t want to be offensive, but how in the H can you possibly think this isn’t Ty’s fault? Sure, the players need to perform regardless of what Ty does. But have you ever played with someone who you just couldn’t click with? Have you ever played with someone that always seemed to compliment your game and make you better? It’s the coaches responsibility to find and utilize the proper lineups and substitutions. Ty has not done that, and he hasn’t even tried.
The only time Ty Corbin uses his brain is when injuries have forced him to do so. And that is not him actually using his brain, but hey…..i’ll pretend like it is just to give him some credit. After last night’s game, I am so disgusted with our entire roster. But it’s the Coach that has gotten them to this point mentally. He has destroyed this team because of stupid a** decisions earlier in the year. Therefore, yes….I blame Ty Corbin. Call me insane for thinking the coach should take the blame for sucky substitutions and timeouts.
It’s the coach’s job to keep the team together, and Corbin has clearly lost this roster due to his constant, ongoing lack of anything resembling good coaching decisions.
That alone makes this pathetic collapse 100% Corbin’s fault.
Kevin Graham’s article on KSL.com is gold:
http://www.ksl.com/index.php?sid=24396561&nid=304&title=are-the-utah-jazz-done
@Kevin
Someone mentioned this here before, but the reason everyone on the blogs are upset with Ty is because they are coaching for one game while Ty is managing a roster for the whole season and possibly the next season. Every decision he makes is with 82 games in mind, not 48 minutes. Yes, Ty sticking to his guns has frustrated many people, including myself, throughout the season. But that decision has already proved itself to be beneficial with a couple players on the team.
Last night, Earl Watson, I know EARL WATSON, was the best pg for the Jazz. We have called time and time again for him to be dnp-ed for the majority of the season, but without Earl last night, we would have lost by 50.
Lots of us were asking for Marvin Williams to be banished to the bench about 15 games back. Recently, Marvin has looked like the guy we were hoping he would be in the offseason. If Ty had given up on him, we would have been sitting on a 7.5 million dud next season.
In reality, the only big change Ty hasn’t tried is bringing Al off the bench. Now an elite, established coach would probably try it, but I don’t think that makes Ty the root of all problems because of it. He’s not Popovich by any means, but I would argue that he is better than any coach available.
I understand that logic Andy. I want a coach to coach for 82 games and and not cater to the desires of fans on a game by game basis. However we are 65 games into an 82 game season, as well as 2 and half seasosn into Tyrone Corbin’s rein and the he still doesn’t look like someone who knows what his best lineups are. he doesn’t play around with his starting lineups too much but throughout the game his lineups are all over the place. His decisions, or lack of them, only benefit a couple of players on the roster, a roster of 14 players. He gives the benefit of the doubt to players who are having bad games or scoring droughts in what to some are noble attempts at getting them through bad times but then pulls off the player with the hot hand time after time. This results in game after game oppositions being able to make runs that the Jazz just can’t keep up with. 3rd quarter blowouts after a close first half are common.
Recently Kanter has really upped his shooting percentages but he remains stuck on the bench whilst those before him suffer miss after miss. kanter is by no means the finished article when it comes to to offense but anyone is shooting at 65%fg use them until it drops. Before Kanter stepped it up it was Hayward who would come in for a few minutes, do his bit on the scoreboard and then get pulled off to save him for later in the game and then is expected to start right back half way through the 3rd and stay on until the end of the game by which time he has either lost his mojo, or teams see him as a threat and focus on him or he just gets tired. Recently he looks like he has just lost confidence in himself, his teammates, and his coach’s decisions making with his usage in the game. He scored 20 yesterday but he made some bad shot decisions whilst his team was missing shots. As a young player if the coach isn’t going to use you when you are hot and use your energy wisely they aren’t going to trust the coach when things turn ugly.
GO UTES!
@mtnman801, ya jazz must have gotten some dud offers this deadline. They should have moved a lot sooner like last year deadline, or at least this past draft. Ya, we might have some cap money, but are FA’s really going to WANT to come play for Corbin??!! We screwed up. Draft is the only realistic way of getting an All-Star/Superstar caliber player.
LOL! Corbin’s been reading UJ360 and SLCDunk!
“I tell the guys, ‘You can listen to criticism, but most of the people that’s criticizing don’t have an idea of what you’re going through. They probably haven’t ever (done) anything at this level in their life. They can talk. Talk is cheap. We’ve got to go out and do what we’ve got to do.’ ”
This is the end-product of the kinda culture Corbin has created, and the one a lot of us have been critical of since last year. Playing time, for Corbin, has NEVER been based on merit, it based on years in the league, regardless of talent (i.e. CJ, Howard, Bell, Watson 2012, Al, Sap, Foye, Tinsley, Watson 2013); so in other words, playing defense is optional, playing hard is optional, so long as you are a vet. AND now, Corbin wants to complain cuz his boys aren’t playing hard—”you reap what you sow,” Corbin!!
FO needs a lot of blame as well.
Funny how CJ and Bell talked trash about Corbin, and now it looks like his boys are doing the same….if anything, this says that the C4 are well-behaved dudes that are not gonna start $hit. So that’s the bright spot, that despite being screwed for 2 years by Corbin, they still do their job and remain respectful (even though they probably shouldn’t—Favors had a huge gripe about his non-20/20 game). Corbin has lost this team. Do they risk the C4 leaving just to stay loyal to Corbin??? You would think it’s a no-brainer, but what has the FO done the last two years to show that they are FULLY behind the youth movement?!—-NOTHING!
“Playing time, for Corbin, has NEVER been based on merit”
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Sorry guys I want a coach who can focus on one game. I want a coach that can analyze an opponent and be focused on what it will take to win THAT game. I want him to do it every game. I want him to see what adjustments need to be made. In October, I couldn’t give a crap about the games in April. I’m worried about the games in October. Constantly thinking about what he can do to save his job is playing it safe. He coaches scared. I can’t believe fans are okay with that! So dissapointing. No wonder the Jazz front office isn’t concerned about keeping fans happy and winning games. Because we aren’t smart enough to complain when something needs to be complained about.
@Kevin: BINGO. Good coaches focus on detail. Corbin is about the least detail-oriented coach I’ve ever seen.
I have been supportive of Coach Ty up to this point, but I fail to see his hand-writing. The sort of culture that we Jazz players love to see, damn the torpedoes.
And that is: If you are on the court, play hard. Show the fans that you are putting effort into it. Play Team Defense, shove around a few opponents in the paint – make them FEAR to come to the Salt Palace (oops, wrong era).
Now if you ask any team (other than maybe the Bobcats) shortly before they come out to Utah whether they anticipate a really hard game, what will they say?
This team doesn’t demand or inspire respect in their opponents. And it’s the coaches’ responsibility to install this. Jerry Sloan will not coach again – he doesn’t have the energy anymore (it’s a matter of age – he did an absolutely fantastic job, and I loved him on the bench). But find somebody who has the same vision, the same charisma, and the same Iron Hand that shows the team “This is Jazz basketball, and that’s how we play here. Take it, or go join Raja on the Beach.”
Marvin got a second chance in the league – why isn’t he showing us more fire?
Mo Williams is a great individual player, but so far he is a bust as a point guard for this team. His decision-making is bad (in my eyes).
Just two examples where I’d expect the Coach to have a bigger impact on their style of play, for them to improve the team over the course of the season (difficult for Mo, obviously, with his injury), molding the team into a cohesive unit.
Currently everything is falling apart and Ty Corbine must be ready to accept the consequences.