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Rondo rumor picking up steam
Posted by: Danny on February 17th, 2012
The author's views are entirely his or her own and may not reflect the views of the Utah Jazz.We have heard Rondo discussed a lot. Hoopsworld writer Bill Ingram published this article today.
http://www.hoopsworld.com/nba2-rajon-rondo-and-the-utah-jazz
My thought is if you can get Rondo without giving up any of the young pieces or draft picks this year you go for it.
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I would even give up draft pieces we have three picks more then likely in this daft and, its a draft for big me which we have to many of anyway on are team. So keep the gs or the jazz first round and send one away for rondo. Include paul and harris and if you can cj. Three players and a draft pick not to bad for what you get in return. A top 5 point guard that fits in with what the jazz try to do. You can beat that. Kanter and favors are off limits, I would even say gordon is off limits as well anyone else you could get rid of for rondo.
Don’t see it happening. Why would Boston trade away Rondo and an expiring contract for Harris and Millsap?
I don’t see it happening eithe but, if the jazz can get them to accept it take the deal.
Doesn’t anyone else think that maybe Rondo’s numbers over the years have been a bit inflated, due to the fact he has had guys like Pierce, and Allen, and Garnett to play with? Earl Watson could average ten assists a game with that kind of a supporting cast. Also, Rondo’s attitude sucks. If you thought Deron Williams was difficult…
I have been dreaming of this trade for awhile now. I don’t know if the C’s would do it, but I think it would take a draft pick, probably the GS. Rondo is the only guy that’s not too old on the Celtics that’s worth anything, thus he is their future. So to trade him for Millsap and Harris, I don’t think that’s enough. But if you throw the pick in there, maybe. Also, Allen has the most value of the 3 big expiring contracts they have this season (other 2 are KG and O’neal), so that’s a lot to give up for them. I know nobody wants him but I think taking O’neal and Rondo is far more realistic than getting both Rondo and Allen for sap, devin, and maybe miles. Just my opinion though.
Also, Rondo can’t shoot a lick…so he would fit right in on our team.
Can you tell I don’t like Rondo…at all…LOL!!
mmmm
What ´bout Harris + Favors + Trade expetion for Rondo?
I can tell jason I would agree with ya but, this year kg pierce and, allen aren’t much better than average and rondo is still putting up big number. If his number went down alot this year I would 100 percent agree with ya but, since they are simlar or comparable to other seasons I don’t see the inflation of his numbers
Boston appears to be really shopping Rondo, there must be a reason. It’s probably the known fact that he is a locker room distraction. Not sure he fits the Jazz culture. Rondo’s a great player just not sure he would work out in the long run.
Trevor has a point.
@Jason I have some of the same reservations (shooting, attitude), and think his numbers would go down a little with us. However, I think when you can get a top 5 pg who is already signed cheap for long-term without giving up much, it’s worth the risk.
Plus you could make the same argument against him as for him. Look what Watson has done in a Jazz uniform. Both are bad shooting, good defense, pass-first guys. Rondo is like Watson on steroids.
I would do it without even getting Allen back.
Rondo shoots 61% from the free throw line…he shoots like 25% from three point range…not to mention, what it the world makes you think he would want to even be here, and have a good attitude about it?
And on top of all this, you would give up Paul Millsap as part of the package to get him? A double figure rebounder and scorer, who shoots over 50% from the floor most of time, and signifies everything that the Jazz stand for?
You guys are nuts…LOL!!
Oh…and we get an over the hill Ray Allen…sweet.
Rondo isn’t even in my top 8 point guards.
Ok Jason, I can think of a few reasons we would do it. Maybe because he has been selected to the All Defensive 1st team for 2 years straight and the 2nd team the year before. Maybe because we have 4 bigs all needing minutes but a horrible pg who makes almost as much as Rondo, and on top of that we will not be able to keep all 4 in the long run anyway. Or maybe it’s because he’s averaging 15 pts, 9.5 assists(which happens to be 2nd in the league right now behind Nash, our good buddy Devin is 33rd), and 5 reb. a game this year.
Oh and that old guy Ray Allen? He has an expiring contract and happens to be shooting 48% from 3 point range this year, which happens to be the 3rd best percentage in the entire NBA. Also he averages 14 pts a game. So actually it is kinda sweet.
That being said I realize it’s a tough thought to get rid of Sap he is a complete stud but there’s no way you can say we are nuts for considering a guy like Rondo not to mention Ray Allen.
Jason, 3 point shooters are the kickers of basketball. They last forever because their abilities don’t deteriorate with age as much as other skills do. The Spurs championship teams were loaded with over the hill three point shooters and they were a dynasty. I like this trade. I might sound insane for this but I wouldnt mind taking on Jermaine O’neal’s exp. contract. He would backup Favors and add a big defensive shot blocking presence. I think we win all across the board. It might sting a little to let go of the GS pick but it will work out in the long run. We should also try to get Morrow along with miles. We can never have too many shooters!
You are probably the only guy in the world who doesn’t have Rondo in the top 8 PGs.
Rondo has been playing well this season but he is the same player as Harris really just younger. Assists are inflated due to the high level of players around him. I do to want rondo but yet if it was to get rid of Harris why not. Harris is horrile
@Dallan How is Rondo the same as Harris? Harris was never the defender or passer that Rondo is. Read Trevor Knights comment towards the top in response to your inflation numbers.
All rondo has is his speed on offense which is exactly what Harris has the reason rondo does well for the celtics is KG rarely posts they do not run offense through o’neal so it is penetration and throw it out not post up pass the ball inside and let the big guys work it. That is how rondo is like Harris. Rondo is a better on ball defender and he is a better passer but he still would struggle in our system
the jazz have to many big men to keep Millsap Favors need the time so we can see what he is really worth
for people thinking they should put favors in the trade IDIOTS the whole reason the jazz ended up trading Dwill was for Favors and the Picks Harris just happened to be a bonus they wanted favors the only way Favors can meet up with his potential is to get him time .. and Rondos is wanted for his assists and they will be around the same because of the big guys the jazz have
there is no need to be blasting this post with 3 or 4 comments at a time just put all in one post
Jefferson, because of his contract is the only big that I would trade and not for Rondo. I just don’t think Rondo’s future contract and attitude are what we want here. We still need shooters through the draft and somehow pick up a younger Watson prototype while still keeping Watson.
Point guards that I think are better then Rondo:
Chris Paul
Derrick Rose
Deron Williams
Steve Nash
Tony Parker
Russell Westbrook
Kyrie Irving
And one other I would personlly rather have then Rondo:
Ricky Rubio (I’m not saying he’s better then Rajon yet)
One thing to think about: I think Rondo or any other point guard in the league, would see his assists total decrease on the Jazz. Why? Al Jefferson. Even though I really like Al, and even though he’s become a more willing passer this season, he holds the ball for so long before making some of his moves, that it often kills any flow for the offense.
If you were talking Jefferson, rather then Millsap, for Rondo, then I would be a little more supportive of this trade. I think Millsap would greatly benefit from playing with Rondo, but I’m not sure Rondo would benefit from playing with Jefferson.
Do you guys think rondo would work with our post dominant inside out game?
Dane…exactly my point. Rondo would get the ball kicked back out to him, with the shot clock winding down, and we all know he isn’t the greatest shooter. Jefferson, and Kanter aren’t very fleet of foot, and could plug up some of Rondo’s driving lanes. I’m just not sure it’s a good match. I think we need a point guard who can shoot the ball, and pass…like Jose Calderon.
Jason, I agree with you that his numbers could be inflated. Think about how many assists Stockton could of had with 3 Allstars/HOF’s on 1 team to pass to. And people think his highest ast avg (not to mention his other ast records) is close to unattainable. But it could be that he is just as good of a player regardless.
Trever, not to be rude, but why is it that I can hardly read anything you post?
Guido, are you a Jazz fan?
@Jason Ok I see your list, and they are all studs. However, none of them are in trade talks besides Nash. You do make a point with the offensive system issues. Maybe in a Rondo trade Jefferson would be a better fit. I just don’t see the Jazz giving him up because he’s our leading scorer. But then again Millsap’s scoring would probably go up with Al out of there and Rondo would score a lot more than Harris so it might even itself out. hmmmm…..
I think Kanter is more fleet of foot than Jefferson. I like Jefferson, but I think there is a need for the Jazz to move away from Jefferson as the go-to.
Bracken true that…
i think any point guard the jazz pick up are not going to do as good until we get 3 point shooting.. what about trying to pick up curry or trade for 3 point shooting and then trade the picks around to draft a couple young PG and Shooting guards
Favors isn’t going anywhere and why you wouldn’t want Millsap in the deal is beyond me especially when you get a better player in return. His salary and his “roll” player ability makes him an attractive chip and the jazz would be crazy not to move him since he is holding back players behind him on the bench that have been outplaying him in half the minutes. And the whole “Millsap represents what the jazz stand for” this isn’t Sunday school! It’s the NBA and I thought the jazz stood for winning which is what would happen if they trade for a 1st team all defensive team all-star point guard.
Steve brings up a great point we stand for winning nothing else that’s what any sport is about. The jazz represent that very well but, what represents the jazz more then bringing in a winner. The guy has a ring that should stand for something. Really though kyrie and tony being better then rondo I don’t see that at all. Nash either they are good but, nothing like rondo is. Nash doesn’t play d kyrie is very unproven has a chance to be better but, isn’t there yet. Parker is good but, not amazing, I just don’t see those three at all
Ultimately, it doesn’t matter how good or bad Rondo is. He would rather retire from the NBA than play in Utah.
I dout that nick im prettys sure he would stick around just to be in a jazz system. Dwills first choice probably wasn’t utah but, I don’t think he would prefer to play anywhere else now.
I’m sure there are several other teams Dwill would prefer other than the Jazz. I just don’t think the Nets was one of them
Theres a comment that was floating around a while back that stated Dwill would love to play for Utah again… and at one point a comment said he would have loved to finish his career in utah .. so the fan base is what they want to stay for dont count anyone out just cause its utah everyone knows the jazz compete almost every year and with the talent they have right now you can see how amazing the future is looking for this team
Rondo is legit. his personality clashes alot with doc . I think ty would be the perfect coach for him. And Rondo would be interested to play with our frontcourt talent just like any good pg in the league. I dont understand why harris is having such a hard time. Take care of the ball drive to the hoop, hit whatever big man is not gaurded or pop it back out. Even earl makes it look easier
After watching last night’s game, I disagree with the idea that Rondo could not be successful here. Harris played to his strengths last night and had a great game and so did the rest of the team including Al with 30+. Problem with Harris is he rarely does that. So if Rondo played his game night in night out, with his added defense, we would be great.
Can you imagine Rondo and Watson hounding the other team’s point guards all night long?
it would be a sick combo.. it would be cool to see him hear but chances are small the should include one draft pick all we need is one that is lottery pick and pick up Tony Wroten Jr.. and have to sick point guards
If they get rondo the jazz wont draft a pg. They will get a sooting guard or a small forward. Unless that kid from weber slips to the second round then they might pick him upnto sell tickets. There’s no point to draft a pg when you have rondo and a very solid back up in watson
Bracken, Harris also allowed Wall to score 24 points
@Kory yes he did. Which supports my comment even more because rondo is an all nba defender.
See me and bracken knows what’s up the rest of you got to jump on board.
Trevor you are right they might not draft a PG and in that case i would say go for Austin Rivers… And Damian Lillard (Weber State PG) he dosent have the fan base like jimmer had it would be cool to see him here it would be a good change… since he can score so its possible but Rivers and Lillard bot are going around the same spots in the draft
The kid still has a fanbase local boy you are right though nothing like jimmer had but, still wouldn’t mind seeing him in utah. He can spread the court a bit to so he might do well in utah. Drafting a pg or not they need to draft or get anther wing player in here as well
true that yea i would hope that they draft a PG or Wing Player
Rondo’s numbers are not “inflated.”
He plays every side of the ball. Pound for pound one of the best all around players in the league. He can score too… When has Harris given us a 35-15 game? Oh ok…
Only notch is he can’t shoot, but he does everything else.
Ray Allen over the hill? A little old, but still shooting the lights out. We don’t have anyone who is a legitimate threat from outside. That would make us an instant playoff team.
How much does Utah appreciate players that play hard every night? Think about how much we would love Rondo’s fight.
Attitude, whatever… All these guys have ego’s. If you don’t want Rondo in a Jazz uniform, than you don’t want to win.